Cobra The “your loss” technique does not work with my wife either. A person needs to feel s/he deserves something before s/he feels the loss of it. That is one of my wife’s problems. She complains of not getting enough validation, but when she does get it she sabotages it. About the same here cobra.
HD, I felt the guys post was a bit idealistic, according to the book and not according to what usually happens in my life. I posted it anyway because he said he made the effort, something I see some guys not doing.
From NG book and related to HD's reply. Helps break addictive patterns by eliminating compulsive masturbation, HD, the word compulsive MB is there. What is wrong with MB a couple times a week? I think of compulsive as 1X to 3X or more a day. Getting off os as good or better than taking a sleeping pill. BTDT at 2AM many times after laying in bed for a couple of hours and still trying to get some good shut eye. ZZZZZZZZZZZ
