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I was curious about this...wanting a little more info. Does he really say nothing? You know, in a way, he sounds like a lost soul, LL, drifting through life... It's entirely possible that when you say this and that to him about what you think his feelings are, he really doesn't know them himself, so he doesn't respond. Maybe the question is, how does one bring him back to the land of the living? Maybe the answer is to engage his other senses, that it really isn't your R, LL? From what you say, it sounds like he is (and will be with OM) this way with everyone. It sounds like he needs to engage life a little bit...get a taste of something he's been "overlooking" for seemingly many years. Maybe OW was simply a destraction from this pain?


don't really know how to answer all this.
for the most part yes h really says nothing and mostly it is because he doesn't have any answers.

for the most part I see that h has very superficial r's with people, I don't know the true nature of the r he had with ow, maybe he was able to be open and talk to her I don't know.

it is not my job to pull h into the land of the living I've been doing that for 10 years I'm done trying to get him to live.

I always had a life...worked, went to college, had friends, went to parties, had parties, danced, sang, made new frieds, worked out (roller blading and gym) etc...h simply sat idly by when he would come to parties he'd fall asleep or get drunk, when I would visit him at his house he'd fall asleep, when he'd visit me at my house I'd fall asleep. when I turned 21 I started to frequent a local bar made some new friends and played darts and had a ball...when h would come he would sit up at the bar while I socialized, some people there didn't know he was with me. imagine going to a bar full of men with your girl and sitting at the bar while she plays dart with them???

I don't know what h wants of this r if he wants anything at all of it.

right now from what h has said he is here because he needs to be here. basically doing the right thing for the family. this in the end will not make h happy nor will it make me happy.

I've given up on h. it's been far to long.

LL