We have had some ludicrously drawn-out "What do you want for dinner?" conversations in my house. Not sure that has anything to do with PA, more like the state of terminal indecision induced by poor planning, hunger, and exhaustion.
I don't understand all the frustration over this topic. IMO, the easiest way to deal with this is to ask what he wants, he says he doesn't care, and then heat up a plain, bland frozen pizza each and every time (or something equally boring). After a while, he might start making some suggestions.
But this silly arguing over who is going to take responsibility for a decision is just an attempt to avoid being blamed by the other for you making a poor decision. So just make a poor decision (the pizza) and let him deal with the consequence. The task for you is to deal with your consequence, which means ignoring the blame he will try to throw at you for always baking a pizza. This is really nothing more than a boundary issue.
He: Can't you come up with ideas on your own? Her: Yes. Can you?
He: Aren't you in charge of the kitchen? Her: Yes I am. If you don't like the way I run it, you can offer more input, and I'll be glad to listen to it.
Of course, if he's a conflict avoider/passive agressive, he could keep eating pizza for years and quietly add it to his list of charges against you. If you're a conflict avoider as well, you could keep feeding him pizza for years and wait for him to say something.
I think I'll pre-schedule some time with Mrs. Eddie and the kids this weekend to try out a new recipe together...
a fine and enviable madness, this delusion that all questions have answers, and nothing is beyond the reach of a strong left arm.
On this you and I agree. "I don't understand all the frustration over this topic. IMO, the easiest way to deal with this is to ask what he wants, he says he doesn't care, and then heat up a plain, bland frozen pizza each and every time (or something equally boring). After a while, he might start making some suggestions." In fact I did something similar....only I simply didn't cook. I'd simply fix a salad and sandwich my son and I would eat a salad myself. Now, when he really wants a cooked meal he provides me with some input. Perhaps he calls me at work and asks me to pick something up for dinner to prepare...which I'm happy to do, or when provided with a choice he gives his preference. It only took a few times of him asking me "what's for dinner?", after I had asked what he'd like or given him a choice, and me saying "I'm just having a salad...it's a fend for yourself night" beore he started giving me input.
Scholars in antiquity began counting the ways that humans have sex, but they weren’t so diligent in cataloging the reasons humans wanted to get into all those positions. Darwin and his successors offered a few explanations of mating strategies — to find better genes, to gain status and resources — but they neglected to produce a Kama Sutra of sexual motivations.
Perhaps you didn’t lament this omission. Perhaps you thought that the motivations for sex were pretty obvious. Or maybe you never really wanted to know what was going on inside other people’s minds, in which case you should stop reading immediately.
For now, thanks to psychologists at the University of Texas at Austin, we can at last count the whys. After asking nearly 2,000 people why they’d had sex, the researchers have assembled and categorized a total of 237 reasons — everything from “I wanted to feel closer to God” to “I was drunk.” They even found a few people who claimed to have been motivated by the desire to have a child.
The researchers, Cindy M. Meston and David M. Buss, believe their list, published in the August issue of Archives of Sexual Behavior, is the most thorough taxonomy of sexual motivation ever compiled. This seems entirely plausible.
Who knew, for instance, that a headache had any erotic significance except as an excuse for saying no? But some respondents of both sexes explained that they’d had sex “to get rid of a headache.” It’s No. 173 on the list.
Others said they did it to “help me fall asleep,” “make my partner feel powerful,” “burn calories,” “return a favor,” “keep warm,” “hurt an enemy” or “change the topic of conversation.” The lamest may have been, “It seemed like good exercise,” although there is also this: “Someone dared me.”
Dr. Buss has studied mating strategies around the world — he’s the oft-cited author of “The Evolution of Desire” and other books — but even he did not expect to find such varied and Machiavellian reasons for sex. “I was truly astonished,” he said, “by this richness of sexual psychology.”
The researchers collected the data by first asking more than 400 people to list their reasons for having sex, and then asking more than 1,500 others to rate how important each reason was to them. Although it was a fairly homogenous sample of students at the University of Texas, nearly every one of the 237 reasons was rated by at least some people as their most important motive for having sex.
The best news is that both men and women ranked the same reason most often: “I was attracted to the person.”
The rest of the top 10 for each gender were also almost all the same, including “I wanted to express my love for the person,” “I was sexually aroused and wanted the release” and “It’s fun.”
No matter what the reason, men were more likely to cite it than women, with a couple of notable exceptions. Women were more likely to say they had sex because, “I wanted to express my love for the person” and “I realized I was in love.” This jibes with conventional wisdom about women emphasizing the emotional aspects of sex, although it might also reflect the female respondents’ reluctance to admit to less lofty motives.
The results contradicted another stereotype about women: their supposed tendency to use sex to gain status or resources.
“Our findings suggest that men do these things more than women,” Dr. Buss said, alluding to the respondents who said they’d had sex to get things, like a promotion, a raise or a favor. Men were much more likely than women to say they’d had sex to “boost my social status” or because the partner was famous or “usually ‘out of my league.’ ”
Dr. Buss said, “Although I knew that having sex has consequences for reputation, it surprised me that people, notably men, would be motivated to have sex solely for social status and reputation enhancement.”
But then, men were also more likely than women to say they’d had sex because “I was slumming.” Or simply because “the opportunity presented itself,” or “the person demanded that I have sex.”
If nothing else, the results seem to be a robust confirmation of the hypothesis in the old joke: How can a woman get a man to take off his clothes? Ask him.
To make sense of the 237 reasons, Dr. Buss and Dr. Meston created a taxonomy with four general categories:
¶Physical: “The person had beautiful eyes” or “a desirable body,” or “was good kisser” or “too physically attractive to resist.” Or “I wanted to achieve an orgasm.”
¶Goal Attainment: “I wanted to even the score with a cheating partner” or “break up a rival’s relationship” or “make money” or “be popular.” Or “because of a bet.”
¶Emotional: “I wanted to communicate at a deeper level” or “lift my partner’s spirits” or “say ‘Thank you.’ ” Or just because “the person was intelligent.”
¶Insecurity: “I felt like it was my duty” or “I wanted to boost my self-esteem” or “It was the only way my partner would spend time with me.”
Having sex out of a sense of duty, Dr. Buss said, showed up in a separate study as being especially frequent among older women. But both sexes seem to practice a strategy that he calls mate-guarding, as illustrated in one of the reasons given by survey respondents: “I was afraid my partner would have an affair if I didn’t.”
That fear seems especially reasonable after you finish reading Dr. Buss’s paper and realize just how many reasons there are for infidelity. Some critics might complain that the list has some repetitions — it includes “I was curious about sex” as well as “I wanted to see what all the fuss was about” — but I’m more concerned about the reasons yet to be enumerated.
For instance, nowhere among the 237 reasons will you find the one attributed to the actress Joan Crawford: “I need sex for a clear complexion.” (The closest is “I thought it would make me feel healthy.”)Nor will you find anything about gathering rosebuds while ye may (the 17th-century exhortation to young virgins from Robert Herrick). Nor the similar hurry-before-we-die rationale (“The grave’s a fine and private place/ But none I think do there embrace”) from Andrew Marvell in “To His Coy Mistress.”
From even a cursory survey of literature or the modern mass market in sex fantasies, it seems clear that this new taxonomy may not be any more complete than the original periodic table of the elements.
When I mentioned Ms. Crawford’s complexion and the poets’ rationales to Dr. Buss, he promised to consider them and all other candidates for Reason 238.
You can nominate your own reasons at TierneyLab. You can also submit nominations for a brand new taxonomy: reasons for just saying “No way!” Somehow, though, I don’t think this list will be as long.
I don't understand all the frustration over this topic. ... But this silly arguing over who is going to take responsibility for a decision is just an attempt to avoid being blamed by the other for you making a poor decision.
Actually, Cobra, I think I misled you here. In our case, they really were just discussions ... not arguments ... ludicrous only in that two functioning adults couldn't solve the problem of what they wanted to eat at that moment. Some frustration, perhaps ... at ourselves as much as the other ... but no major angst and no blame.
Sometimes we do the, "I just want cereal, can you fend for yourself?" thing too.
All this reminded me of one of my favorite cartoons which is for all time enshrined on my fridge (does anybody remember Sally Forth?):
Sally: "What would you like for dinner, Ted?"
Ted: "I don't care."
Sally: "How about creamed eggplant on raisin toast?"
Ted: "!!!" (facial expression of extreme revulsion)
Sally: "Now that we've established you DO care, let's talk about what to have for dinner."
"Show me a completely smooth operation and I'll show you someone who's covering mistakes. Real boats rock." -- Frank Herbert
Your cartoon made me think of something. There is actually a restaurant out by where my IL's live in GA that is honest to God called "I Don't Care". Obviously the person who opened that restaurant had asked the question "where/what do you want to eat?" and received the "I don't care" response as well LOL
The movie "Boys in the Hood"http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101507/ Cuba Gooding Jr. ... Tré Styles Ice Cube ... Darin 'Doughboy' Baker Laurence Fishburne ... Jason 'Furious' Styles
Fortunately there were objections to any R rated movie and the more conservative folks in upper management ruled, no more R rated movies. The workers/house parents had varied opinions but our opinion didn’t count.
The group-home boys weren’t Deida men so IHP does not qualify as a Deida answer.
Cemars question just triggered something I remembered about the movie "Boys in the Hood."
