What is 5 the hard way? Also, as far as getting her to come around to your way of thinking, it doesn't seem likely at all to me that any of us can talk sense into our WASs. That's likely pressure, pursuit, guilt, etc. that wil just push her further away.
M 39 W 39 M'd 10 yrs; T 14 yrs S7 D4 Bomb 5-8-05 W not working on M 1-22-07; EA 2-22 DB 4-10 S 6-11 No more C Link
