I completely disagree with you regarding Choc. I know he has been on the boards a very long time, but it has only been very recently that he has stepped up to make a change in his marriage. This has all occurred within only a few months. All the time he spent before mopping and whining about his sex starved marriage did nothing to work through his problems. Once the wheels start turning to change the dynamics of any marriage, that is when the clock starts ticking on the year or two it takes to get progress. All the time spent before is irrelevant.