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cac4 #1143140 07/25/07 09:21 PM
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If most people moved on when there were problems in the R, look how many self-centered people their would be. There would be very few people Dbing.

Ok fewer STDs, kids growing up with one set of parents, people willing to form/build extended family networks, financial security for the short and long term/generational, all forms of stability.

I think if the government took and owned all the housing and rented it out to people, community pride would drastically decrease. You would see more crime and blight.

LTR build a sense of ownership, commitment to the LT success of groups of people and individuals.

Sure, some LTR's just suck the life out of people. That is a problem with the individual, not the pair bonding model.

Cac4 inheritance/property
Along those lines, are the people that marry with in a select group, to keep the property/money better off and more stable than in societies that find random partners. I am not concerned about genetics, just social strengths.

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I just read an interesting comment about polygamy and how it actually is more helpful for women than men. In polygamous societies the "good" women are taken by a few wealthy men so few and inferior women are available for other men.




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What other major cultures are polygamous?

Its common in parts of the Arab world....middle-eastern and eastern cultures. Also in some cultures that we would call "primative". then there were the Mormons...

just remembered an example: Osama bin Laden has some rediculous number of half-siblilngs...his dad had many wives, each having a number of children. this is "modern day" stuff.

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In polygamous societies the "good" women are taken by a few wealthy men so few and inferior women are available for other men.

Then the single men drink, don't have a reason to get and keep a good job, join religious groups, some religious groups want to kill people.

No, You bought him/her so take care of him/her is my preference. Not all people can do that.

Like MoJo said, shorter length games are more doable but what do people do between short length games? I suspect most wonder around looking for the next game.

Why not build a better long term game?

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I'm sure you are taking this point of view now because it is all still very new (being free from the M) but maybe in a few years you will see things differently. Want someone to grow old with maybe. Who knows.


Oh, I'd say it's more like I'm "exploring" this POV rather than "taking" it. Whenever people talk about wanting someone with whom to grow old or wanting to be in a relationship so that they won't die alone, I reflect once more on what I learned studying mathematics which is the fact that human beings have no natural comprehension of probability or statistics. If you are a woman, you will probably not be in a LTR when you die. It doesn't much matter what choices you make in that regard when you are 42. If I was concerned about living alone in my old age, I would be better off making more of a priority of the tentative plans my sisters and I have made of purchasing a vacation home together. OTOH, I'm sure I would be overjoyed to someday wake up and discover myself in a relationship that had lasted over 20 years and been largely continuously successful but if anybody on this BB has discovered a way to get to that point besides just playing fair and having fun and not tolerating poor play from one's partner, I've yet to learn their secret.


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Its common in parts of the Arab world....middle-eastern and eastern cultures. Also in some cultures that we would call "primative". then there were the Mormons...

Cac4, I have Mormon/LDS neighbors. I service the LDS copier. Zero polygamous.

I have done some forum chatting with college teachers that are Muslim. According to what I am told, a low percentage are polygamous. It is usally the people that are still tribal like, and like you say primative.

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I just read an interesting comment about polygamy and how it actually is more helpful for women than men.


I always enjoy watching the HBO series "Big Love" about polygamy. Frankly, I don't know how men could afford to have more than one W in our society. This main character has three wives with three ajoining houses and a brood of kids. Talk about bills!

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Frankly, I don't know how men could afford to have more than one W in our society. This main character has three wives with three ajoining houses and a brood of kids. Talk about bills!
EXACTLY! LFL.

One W keeps me busy.

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Ok, here's an article to add to the discussion.

http://www.alternet.org/sex/57724/

Enjoy,

Scott


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Whenever people talk about wanting someone with whom to grow old or wanting to be in a relationship so that they won't die alone

Yeah I always thought those were weak reasons to get married or stay married. I think I have mentioned that my great aunt never married and she has had a great, full life with lots of people in it. Since my grandfather passed away 18 months ago she and my grandmother have spent a little more time together. When my grandmother can't play golf anymore, she and my aunt will probably look at a retirement place together. They are 87 and 85 so I figure within the next 5 years.

just playing fair and having fun and not tolerating poor play from one's partner

What other way would there be to have a good relationship???

That was your 2BX's problem - he couldn't play fair and have fun!




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