Thanks for reaffirming that distance is all I can give. I know this at some level, but despite our problems, part of me still believes we are better off working through them together rather than apart. Of course, in the end it has to be that way, but for now, I think that's impossible. Yet I know if I were to call and mention counseling for us or Retrouvaile, she would most likely reject it simply on the grounds that I was the one to suggest it. Yep. Get the info, and be ready. But she's got to initiate contact. I think she is going to have to feel in 'control' in order to feel safe. And it has to come up when you are talking, not arguing.