Thanks all so much for your posts, suggestions, and support. It means so much to me. I need to check on all of you, too, and promise I will catch up soon!!
Ellie Yeah that's the truth - sometimes that brain to mouth filter just fails! Not always a bad thing though I guess. I REALLY like the suggestion to put it into writing. I express myself better that way, and it helps take away the "forgetting" part of it. H uses "I forgot" a lot - I think he really DOES have memory problems but other times I think it's a convenient excuse. I do think it would be great for me to put it into writing and will post it here first for help/suggestions first.
As to your question... thanks for asking, it's an important question. I'd say it's because I really do love him very deeply, because of his other amazing good character traits and qualities, and because we are really good together most of the time ("when we're good we're great" kind of thing). The flaw that I'm seeing right now was not there for the prior 12 years (well, 11 or so, before this past year). I've thought hard about this and it's not that it was there but I ignored it - it truly wasn't there. I don't know if it's coming from an MLC, OW/PW, something else.. but it's "new." If it's a permanent change, no, I'm not willing to put up with it forever, but deep down I believe it's not permanent. I hope that makes some kind of sense.
Donna I know - it does totally remind me of a kid testing boundaries. I hope he'll decide to go to MC with me. I'm scheduling a session either way, and will let him know when if he decides to go. Funny thing is I know she DID already talk to him about it being inappropriate back when we went last year - but for whatever reason he's forgotten, doesn't care, thinks something is different now, or something.
Thanks for your offer to help. Actually just reading your thread is helping me a ton. You are doing so well and so detached - you're where I almost got to earlier this year, before I let myself get sucked back in again. Reading your thread reminds me I do have that part of myself inside, just need to get back in touch with it again.
Kat Thanks, appreciate it!
ST I got some sleep - not enough, but more than the night before. Thanks. I know I can find the strength to handle this, just struggling some to find it right now I guess.
Thanks for your question to OT, I had the same one. I keep trying to step back and just handle it for now, but getting regularly slapped in the face with it isn't working for me at all (i.e. of Oldtimer's options - I'm not finding myself able to construct a titanium suit, so the question is how do I get out from in front of the car). I do think you're right that he's doing it partly to get a reaction. If I stop getting emotional about it that may help.
I hope he'll choose to go to MC with me. I am scheduling it today. I tried last week but she was out of the office. Before that... well, basically I realized I was procrastinating because I keep feeling like that's where the next bomb will drop. But I'm finally realizing if it does, it does. Nothing I can do about it.
Julie Thanks - you're right, I'll be fine. Doesn't always feel like it, but I know it deep down. Thanks for the reminder.
Yeah I thought that about the bedroom too - I'd really prefer to stay there after I fixed it all up. It's not the most important thing, but I did set it up as "my" space when H left before and I still really like it.
C_K Yuck... sorry you had one of those conversations too. It is really disrespectful, that's for sure.
Care Thanks for your insights. I have a feeling it's pride more than anything, especially with the "teenager" tone. I think that's a good idea about asking him why - particularly after I put it in writing so "I forgot" doesn't work anymore. You're right it's hard with the good times, makes it more bittersweet or something. I don't want to stop having good times together but I let myself get sucked in and hurt (or as OT says, run over) over and over again.
Oldtimer Thanks - it does make me feel better that this is "normal" in some way. You did recommend a book on boundaries but didn't mention the author - that should be easier to find now. Thank you!! Maybe I'll read it at the library and use that to get out of the house some. I also got that "critical inner voice" one and plan to start reading that one this week.
I like your analogies - thanks for those. I also appreciate your faith in me figuring out what to do. I know I NEED to figure out what to do, but actually figuring it out is proving a lot more difficult. I can't get away this weekend because of too many other commitments (happily none of which are H related though - he's invited but they are "my" events with family and friends). I think I'll find more things to do in the evenings just for me, though.
----------------- Thanks again everyone.
For now my plan is: - Schedule the MC - Schedule an IC (another thing I keep procrastinating on - I keep getting this independent "I can figure this out on my own" streak and need to cut that out) - Work on some boundaries in writing and get feedback here, then give to H - If/when boundaries are broken again - ask Care's question about why, but not ask for an answer - Take more time for myself - Do NOT do anything rash right now in terms of ultimatems, buying furniture, signing leases somewhere, any of that.
So much more I need to do, but I think this is a reasonable start.
Me 35, H 38; Together 13.5 yrs, M 7 Bomb 1 10/07/06 Sep'd 1/14/07 - 4/15 Piecing: 4/07 - 9/07 Bomb 3 10/11/07: Never loved you, let's separate 2/08 slowly improving 7/08 Piecing (7/25/08 rings back on!!) Current thread