Lou, I don't think it's limited to gender. I scored high 30s myself
I had that thought in mind about most LD W's. I can guess BB would have scored in the 30's too by her way of thinking. I can imagine BB saying some things were a 3 or 4 in her mind for her, but I would think she displayed a 1 or 2 in actuality towards me.

You and I both came from impoverished backgrounds. We learned to "not want". Correct me if I'm wrong,
Add, “don't even think about asking” unless it was to prevent serious injury. Asking my stepfather about some things was almost sure to start him in anger mode sometimes. I asked something a bout a baseball game and he belittled me for not knowing.

The news, baseball, Sunday evening regulars, along with some other adult oriented programs were all that he allowed on his TV set.

When men act this way, it can derail their masculinity and can produce a "princess syndrome" in the wife.
I have to see how to get out of that mess.

Being in the service industry might have added to the problems I have today.

I will keep reading here and on the “Nice Guy” site. I might read the book.

Lou