Jeff, My S14 said something profound about being a failure, probably because S16 sometimes throws the barbs out. He said that a person is not a failure until they stop trying. Also, we get on S16 because he didn't pass his drivers test twice now so it helps that we can talk about these things. Takes the power away from it by talking about "things that are not currently going our way".

Hawaii was a great place to live but not a great place to be going through a D, kind of like seeing couples at the parks with kids. In HI, there were all these old couples holding hands and walking together that were married, like for 50 years, kind of like envisioned. But then again, who knows if they were on their 2nd or 3rd or whatever, still will be there as long as keep trying. These things take time, patience is the key. RJ


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