Originally Posted By: Meatpuppet

6. Must use artificial lube (even though several Dr.s have reported that there is nothing wrong with her "gear" she simply does not produce natural lubrication...although she did before we got married...hhhmmmmmm?????).

7. No oral (it makes her jaw hurt even though she has had surgery to fix this)


Giving her oral makes her jaw hurt? Either she really needs to see a doctor or you're not doing it right! \:\)

Yes, I know what you meant by #7. What happens when you try to give her oral? What should happen is that plenty of natural lubrication quickly becomes available. If not, there's a problem somewhere.

This whole list indicates a lack of enthusiasm and a lack of desire. Has she spelled out the whole list or are you just piecing it together from various comments and complaints?

Anyway, before you throw in the towel, you need a two-pronged approach to see if her enthusiasm and desire can be awakened.

1. Become more attractive - get a life, get more confident and upbeat, see a doctor for any physical or mental issues that might be holding you back, fix anything in your home or job that you've been neglecting, and so on. All these things feed on each other and reinforce each other, and you'll gradually find it easier to keep it up.

2. Using some of your new confidence, gently, playfully, but firmly lead her through better sex. Work around the physical issues of course, but a lot of her attitude can be thought of as sort of role-playing. Your role, which has to be played convincingly (which means you can't really fake it, because if you were a good actor, you'd have already gotten her on board) is to manfully and playfully "overcome her resistance" - not through rape, but through "persuasion". It's kind of hard to explain, but once you've gotten into the right mindset, it's amazing how easy it is to pull it off. But to get in the right mindset, you've got to get more confidence.

And getting more confidence and getting an interesting life is key to attracting other women if #2 doesn't work and you move on.

Last edited by Crazy Eddie; 07/02/07 06:16 PM.

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