Why do these things happen V

[789]

They must see something then...

Maybe they do, just wish they would send a little birdie to me with a note telling me what they know that I don't. My family does not talk with her at the moment,not being mean, just not interfering, so it is just hope for them. It is mainly her family that keeps telling me to give it time and not give up, and she is with them all week. Hopefully the "whole family" thing will also make her think about us.

[NMHurting]

A lot of my family disowned me for not "giving up". Just welcome the blessing and don't ask why man.

[789]

A lot of my family disowned me for not "giving up". Just welcome the blessing and don't ask why man.

They are not in your shoes, they should have no right in dis-owning you for what you feel.

[NMHurting]

They are not in your shoes, they should have no right in dis-owning you for what you feel.

Well they did. And evicted me in the process....

[789]

They are not in your shoes, they should have no right in dis-owning you for what you feel.

Well they did. And evicted me in the process....

And people wonder why this world is in the sad state of affairs that it is.

[NMHurting]

They are not in your shoes, they should have no right in dis-owning you for what you feel.

Well they did. And evicted me in the process....

And people wonder why this world is in the sad state of affairs that it is.

I won't hijack your thread anymore. But again, count your small blessing 7.

[789]

LOL, you can hijack my thread any time you want. I do count my blessing even if I don't always show it in here.

[delia]

Hey 789--

I just stopped by and was reading through your threads. Kids are screaming in the background over a Webkinz or something, so my concentration's not all it could be.

I guess I'm trying to get an idea of the time frame of your situation. Did it start a month ago with W set on a D? If so, you've come a long way with her. She had the wedding albums out? Your head wasn't cut out of any of the photos? VERY good sign. Course, I can't really make a truly informed judgment here until I know what KIND of swimming suit she bought you. A Speedo? something suitable for your fatherly dignity? Large, splashy, Hawaiian hibiscus on a Day-Glo orange background? Classic black and down to the knees?

It's interesting that she's doing your laundry: and that, also, is a very good sign. Either she's very attached to your laundry, and can't bear to have it washed improperly--which is very unlikely, unless she's of German descent, in which case it's TOTALLY likely--or she is offering a gift of service. Sometimes people offer the gifts that they themselves most prize.

You probably already help her out, in return. Do you dare at this point to offer signs of affection? You don't want to rock the boat, because you seem to be doing everything right. But I was just wondering how much and how intimately you talk, and how this might have changed from the beginning of the sitch?

Too many questions...

[789]

Hey 789--

I just stopped by and was reading through your threads. Kids are screaming in the background over a Webkinz or something, so my concentration's not all it could be.

I guess I'm trying to get an idea of the time frame of your situation. Did it start a month ago with W set on a D?

She asked for a divorce in the beginning of March, right at the time of our 10 year anniversary. She did it without any real talking. I moved around to friends houses till I got an apt at the end of April. Somewhere in April I did the whole anti-DB stuff and at that time her comments were she was moving on, would get a divorce, ILYBNILWY, all that. In the middle of June she said she was thinking. Last week she said she was not planning on filing for divorce. So where I am now, is anybodies guess.

If so, you've come a long way with her.

It seems like it on some days, and not on others. At the same time she said she has no plans to file, she was trying to tell me go out and date.

She had the wedding albums out? Your head wasn't cut out of any of the photos? VERY good sign.

Nope, no pictures of me cut out or marked over. Still not sure why they were out. They have all been put away now.

Course, I can't really make a truly informed judgment here until I know what KIND of swimming suit she bought you. A Speedo? something suitable for your fatherly dignity? Large, splashy, Hawaiian hibiscus on a Day-Glo orange background? Classic black and down to the knees?

Just a regular adult males bathing suit, black with white palm trees on it if that helps.

It's interesting that she's doing your laundry: and that, also, is a very good sign. Either she's very attached to your laundry, and can't bear to have it washed improperly--which is very unlikely, unless she's of German descent, in which case it's TOTALLY likely--or she is offering a gift of service. Sometimes people offer the gifts that they themselves most prize.

Have no clue on the laundry thing. I have done plenty of loads myself even while living together. She has actually come over and taken them without telling me. Once when she asked where my laundry was I told her I had done them at the laundry mat, she actually got mad at me about it.

You probably already help her out, in return. Do you dare at this point to offer signs of affection? You don't want to rock the boat, because you seem to be doing everything right. But I was just wondering how much and how intimately you talk, and how this might have changed from the beginning of the sitch?

I do help her out in any way I can or whenever she asks, almost to the point I sometimes feel she is using me, but I will take that chance.
Nope on the affection part, if I so much look like I am going to touch her or give her a hug, those mean eyes come out. But she has come up and given me a hug a few times in the last month, before that it had been zero for a couple months.
We do not talk intimately at all. No talk about us in a long time, but that seems to be making her more friendly. Friendly is nice but I don't want to just be her friend, I want to be her husband.
The last time I saw her, before she left on vacation, she did use my nickname and gave me a hug, she then immediately said don't read anything into that. She gave me this name before we ever got married. She used that name almost exclusively when we were talking unless someone other than the kids were around. She has only used it sparringly over the last couple years, but has used it a few times in the last month. I will take any baby steps I can get.

[789]

When it comes to doing everything right, I doubt it. I try but I know my face gives my feeling away and that is something I just cannot change without a face life I guess. I do most of my screw-up s in here. Safe that way, the women can't hit me if they can't find me.