OtB, It has been a while since I said a forgave xw so can do it again at our upcoming "date". Have apologised and taken responsibility for my past actions recently but have no problems doing so again if it will help things. If you're sure I still love her that makes one of us, it's like I'm a pilot light on a gas stove or furnace, with the potential to fire up but shutting down emotions to minimize pain has also dulled the highlights somewhat.

Men in general do lead but where I come from it is usually the woman that guides/controls the relationship. Understand that being strong (not wimpy) is a positive trait and am at the stage where fear of rejection no longer plays a big part since we are already D'd, it's not like I have anything to lose.

Will keep you all posted on how things go, RJ


RonJon