Stewart, It is good that your w family is an ally, as is mine. They were telling w early on in the sitch she needed to pull her head out of her a$$, etc. This was working against me. I phoned her sil after a particular nasty blow up with w and asked her if she could back off a bit. I asked her to trust me to do what was right. As well, I have asked the same of my family. Both still want to add advice, etc, but not as much anymore and only when asked for the most part. My S's are the exeption to this. It has helped our sitch by having both families there for support if needed, unfortunately w no longer feels she can go to her family for this, because of the conversations early on. I personally think that the family can cause backslides and have witnessed them first hand several times. You do not need outside influence, except to support your work. IMO
