You're right Cemar. It is hopeless. Not possible. Catch-22 as you say. Can't have one without the other. But can't figure out how to get there. So you get stuck on the gerbil wheel spinning round and round. Might as well jump off...or just keep spinning. Jumping off is scary, spinning is at least "what you know". So keep on spinning Cemar. I know you will. (And yes, I am ignoring your actual questions because I know you are not really looking for an answer).
