Geez, LL, you've been through the ringer the last few days.

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h is a strange fellow...I've said many things to h over this week in regard to how I feel and how I feel he feels...some in anger but most in despair and frustration with tears...h says nothing and I take it as my thoughts of his feelings are true and from what he does say..some of what I think is in fact the truth.
I was curious about this...wanting a little more info. Does he really say nothing? You know, in a way, he sounds like a lost soul, LL, drifting through life... It's entirely possible that when you say this and that to him about what you think his feelings are, he really doesn't know them himself, so he doesn't respond. Maybe the question is, how does one bring him back to the land of the living? Maybe the answer is to engage his other senses, that it really isn't your R, LL? From what you say, it sounds like he is (and will be with OM) this way with everyone. It sounds like he needs to engage life a little bit...get a taste of something he's been "overlooking" for seemingly many years. Maybe OW was simply a destraction from this pain?

Just throwing that out there for you to chew on...

In terms of your parents and your H's parents, I know what you mean about not wanting the same R. I feel the exact same way. I guess we still measure our successes using our parents as a guideline, do we not?

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I don't know if h will ever really be able to have the type of r I want..I'm not totally giving up on it right now..but for now I am doing my own thing..h can come to me when and if he is ready and if that never happens....
I believe this is answer. Perhaps (given my response above) "show" him how great life can be...how fun LL can be. Maybe he will gravitate towards you...maybe you can show him the way.

Again, I'm trying throw a different spin on this sitch, LL...

BTW, thanks for coming by my thread. I needed a visit.

jethro