the h might make the same assumption. I did after all talk to him once or twice too. h though didn't have a whole lot to say about anything, he knew they were "friends" , and according to her got mad at me when I would call, not mad at her or my h for having this "friendship" (gee funny thats another one of her reasons for wanting a d) I think that the book for him would have to enclose a copy of the list of why women leave men which I was going to include anyway. thought I'd just sent the book and listings of other books and a few print outs (if I can get my damn printer to work) to the family. then it's up for grabs either one of them who wants to peek can peek.