wow KAW I went and read the link (well most of it anyway can only get here in bit's) it's funny though that as I read I do not think of myself I think of the ow. I know that is why she was/is leaving her h. I felt that way but didn't and had no intentions of leaving.

I have explained alot of this to h and luckily (am I nuts) he has/had the ow as an example to see what can happen when a woman "feels" neglected ( I don't think it matters much if pa or not, I doubt h would want me to spend the time with another man like he spent with ow)

I know I had more to say but gotta go get the cookies out of the oven.

LL oh how I so want to send ow a copy of dr with a list of all the other wonderfull books I hear about through this site, I know she claims to have read a ton of r books and gone to c but nothing has changed and her h doesn't love her so she's leaving him. wish I could help her but it's not my place.