Oldtimer I don't think of you as an OW either.

I totally understand what you are saying, that maybe just maybe our H's don't want to talk to us.

But...............

I think, that WE LBS's are not like your H's XW. She is toxic, I am not, Nicola is not, and the others are not.

So that is what WE are trying to get at?

Why the controlling, and WHY? they put up with it?

Puffy's OW has it easy, I don't bother to contact him at all

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