Thanks Limbo, Sorry to hear of your loss. I think my biggest hurt is that she wont talk to me about it. I know people process greif in different ways and she has always been the "to Myself" kind of person. I just wonder if, in your opinion, this has anything to do with the sitch or is she using this to distance herself. She does have a habit of rewriting history and dwelling on "her" memory of how things were. As I stated before about the loss of my own father, it still gets tough for me even though it has been almost 20 years, mostly because he would be the one I want to talk to about being a dad and advice about all this. It dosen't consume me anymore but it does affect me. thanks again for your input.