I was going to say I don't think shame is necessary to make someone repentant. But you know - it IS necessary. However, I believe they have to feel it on their own. I don't think you can force it......


....Understand, that I can't, not be what I am
I'm not the milk, and Cheerios in your spoon
~ Avril Lavigne ~
..."Nobody's Fool"...

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