Hi Opti, To clarify on the pushing, I didn't mean to sound that you should be distant but more like not being too available or desperate. Show there is some interest but then pull away just a bit and see if he'll take a small step forward.

Good luck with making the visits work, think of it like the phone calls, if you have to make more trips up his way at first, don't keep score, he could come around like with the phone calls.

As for me, still in HI for another nine days, then two weeks in CO to visit D19 and test the waters w/xw, thinking of just going for it, only get out that way once a year but she has already talked about coming out to visit us in NJ later in the summer. What do you make of that? Anyway, turning down Chief was just too hard to do; the money, the retirement, and even how people treat me differently is something, even the 0-6s and above. So we'll get to NJ in July and give that a try for a couple of years. Sure will miss HI though. Take it easy, RonJon


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