you need no defending! ;\)

Sorry if I offended. I didn't mean to lump you in with that other group that I mentioned. There a special bunch, let me tell ya. To generalize, I'd say that the typical story over there has a couple of key differences from yours. yes, your sitch is quite common, mommy-stuff and all...but you didn't "get it" before...then you did. THEY got it all along, and refused to change. They are steadfast in their righteousness..."H isn't worthy". I know they "got it" because of their earlier rants (and this is typical...same story, over and over), about dh "whining" about how hurt he is, and "boo freakin' hoo; I got dishes to do" is all they could say. Then, they're *shocked* when something bad happens. And I don't mean to "excuse" affairs..(I don't). .that isn't always the ending; often, he just "suddenly" files for divorce. "whatever". doesn't matter. its the "suddenly" part that I laugh at. Because no, you can't tell me that you can withold all affection for years on end, and not "just know". They "knew"; they simply refuse to acknowledge the need for physical affection as legitimate. "selfish", "childish", "immature", even "deviant" are words they use to describe a healthy, normal, male sex drive. (its all right out of Dr. Laura, btw )

all true about poor old Cemar. But I can imagine that he's tried, and felt like he's talking to a brick wall, because I've felt like that myself. as have many others here.

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