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[Matilda2]

Hi Husband. Have a safe, fun filled camping trip!

I'll be interested what others say about your second date letter. Can you just arrange for your son to go to your sisters and not even bring up sleeping together? Would it be normal for him to want to see his aunt and cousins? Has he stayed over there before? Saying you have no intention of sleeping together would make me feel like you really did. Telling her she is attractive and you value her feelings is important, but I am just not sure you should do that in writing for a second date request.

What about a simple clever coupon "good for pizza and dancing"?
Redeemable such and such a night.

Matilda

[Dr LOve]

Matida
I know what you are saying. No it would not be a normal thing for him. I just don't know how to put it. I could just leave the sleeping together part out all together but I KNOW that is what she will be thinking. Then again maybe not. I could leave it at “just so we could have more time”. Then jokingly (is that a word?) during the evening tell her:

I have no intentions of us sleeping together tonight night. Not that I would not want to because to you are the most attractive woman on earth to me. But I care deeply about your feelings and would never want to do anything that would make you feel uncomfortable.

Maybe that would be better

Inputs people??

Husband

[nextsteps_4us]

Could you get a babysitter to just stay late at the house, like 1am or 2am?

Basically you are afraid she is going to feel threatened by the Overnight option. You are right for worrying about this, because she probably will feel threatened.

One of the basic techniques for meeting women is the "false time constraint" - this means when talking to a woman you tell them you can only talk for a few minutes because "insert excuse here". This doesn't mean you leave the conversation in a few minutes, its just a way to make someone comfortable that you aren't going to talk all night. Without the time constraint a woman is going to try to not give you any false signals (not because she doesn't like you) but because its threatening - she doesn't know you and if you are going to get all clingy and follow them around wanting to talk all night.


You are setting up the opposite. Its almost better if at a point in the evening when you two are having the most fun you were called home. Leave her wanting more.

if the evening is going especially well, you can always keep the evening going at home. -- "we don't have a pool table, but i'll make you a drink at home and kick your ass at cards"

[EmtnRllrCstr]

Yes, kicking your W ass in a card game is always fun. We used to play a lot of card games before kids and I always seemed to dominate. She would get so frustrated, but she always wanted to keep playing to try and beat me. That was always a lot of fun.

I'm thinking not mentioning sleeping together is the way to go. Especially at the end of the night you just go to your room and she to hers. Kind of like when you where dating. Remenber this is your 2nd date. Did you mention sleeping with her on your first 2nd date?

[Dr LOve]

thanks for all of the inputs. I have a week to figure this one out. Who knows she might sugjest getting a all night sitter durring one of our phone calls. If she does I'll tell her I hope she is not planning on sleeping together this is only our second date. LOL

Yea i'm going to nix the letter for now.

thanks

Husband

[Dr LOve]

Hey all

I am getting paranoid again. My W has been so nice, why can’t I just accept it. She called yesterday tell me she is going to be late coming home because her back was bothering her and she was going to the chiropractor. This is a total 180 from 2 months ago. She had the attitude like your W “I’m a grown up I’ll go where I want when I want”. I like the phone calls because I worry when she is late before not because of the OM but because I didn’t know if she was in an accident. Now when she called the little devil on my shoulder whispered in my ear “The OM is in town and she can’t wait for me to leave”. Now I don’t know this but this is what pops up in my head. But later that evening she was watching one of he soaps (she records them during the day and watches them at night) anyway I walked into the room and started talking to her. She was nice, answered my question and then stopped her soap and rewinds the part she missed. I told her “sorry for making you miss that” she said “no problem that’s ok” Now My W 2 months ago would have just stopped the recording and looked at me annoyed if I interrupted her viewing. And last but not least. We were talking about next week with me being gone. My youngest D 23y Lives with us. My wife said “Jessica wants me to go someplace overnight next week so she can have some friends over. I told her I can’t I have to work. (My W has no vacation time. If she is not there she is not paid). OK the little devil crawled out again and well you know. I thought is she making an excuse to be gone all night next week?
My son and I will be calling every night so I will know if she is home. I have this feeling that it is over (at least for now) between he and the OM. But it’s so hard to trust her and not let my imagination take over.

Husband

[Dr LOve]

ok everyone

the W just got back from shopping. She bought some sushi (that's raw fish) Now where I was raised that is bait. But she said "come on just try it". Well I ate 3 of them. It was ok but I really didn't care for it.(I didn't tell her I didn't care for it).i thanked her for giving me another "first time" in my life.

Now eating raw fish for my W. This was both a GAL and connecting..right?
husband

[Dr LOve]

Ok everyone,

Talk about distancing. My Jeep is all packed with fishing poles, kites, shovels (for building sand castles) some wood models to build, baseball gloves, cards and some beef jerky. My son and I are leaving in about ½ hour and I’m putting 250

Miles between the W and I.

Now for the “gifts” I have hidden around the house:


1 .Face cream my W asked my Daughter about wrapped in pink paper.
2 Toe nail polish (Twinkled Pink & Passion Punch) wrapped in ink paper
3 Lottery tickets Wrapped in pink paper (I'll be pissed if she wins millions and takes off with the OM)
4 A Pink monkey you guessed it wrapped in pink paper
5 A pair of sun glasses in pink paper
6 A pink sticky note pad holder with my sons picture in it Wrapped in pink paper

And my son and I are stopping by her work and leaving a fan with the L.E.D. message “miss you A & M, She will find it Monday morning when she gets to work, it also is wrapped in pink paper.

Also today I mailed her a thank – note that said:

XXXXX
Thanks for the great time last weekend. I don’t think I laughed so hard in a long time.
Sorry the room was only a 2 star. I’m new to this reservation thing. You always did a great job of it. But I am learning. Thanks to not giving me a bad time about the room. Just you being there was enough for me.
Just to let ya know this does not count as a second date. This was a great family weekend outing. .
Hopefully when XXXXXX and I get back we can have our official “second date”

You are always on my mind
XXXXXX


Things seem to be going good. It is almost like just before my W had the PA. That is what scares me. We need to talk about what caused the P.A and take care of it. I am not the kind of person that believes if you don’t face your problems will just go away. I feel I am at a turning point right now.
I can’t walk on egg shells forever. I am not going to push too hard but none the less I have to push a little.
It is going to be one hell of a week. I will have the lap top my W bought me (with my money). So you all will still hear from me.

Andyv –

I hope everything is ok where ya live. It’s in the 80’s here and a great day to start our journey. It’s hard to believe all of the flooding and wind damage that is happening in your area. My prayers are with ya for you and your family’s safety.

Next time I long on I’ll be in Eureka.

bye
Husband

[Dr LOve]

Hello everyone

Up here in Eureka. Already took a drive on the beach. Weather is ok. We are leaving the toylet seat up. (I brought some Bacardi rum and coke). Waiting until a little later to phone home. I’ll give the first surprise then. Tomorrow we build sand castles I may post the pics on my space and give ya all the address.

I’ll see ya all later and let ya know how the phone call went.

Husband

[Dr LOve]

Hello everyone

Up here in Eureka. Already took a drive on the beach. Weather is ok. We are leaving the toylet seat up. (I brought some Bacardi rum and coke). Waiting until a little later to phone home. I’ll give the first surprise then. Tomorrow we build sand castles I may post the pics on my space and give ya all the address.

I’ll see ya all later and let ya know how the phone call went.

Husband