I'm unclear as to why you are so against making the statement "I will not live in a sexless M." It's not like you even have to make that decision because MrsCac has decided on her own to address the issues. But what about those people on here that don't have a S that is willing to look at their own part in the sexless state of the M? Should they just be patient and hope for the best? We've seen M go into decades of SSM. Seems to me the best progress has been made in confrontation, not just "being the best person you can be" and hope your S notices. LFL