I think we are getting into a semantic debate (which is quite common in religious debates). Usually when someone throws the "unconditional love" thing out there, what they really mean is "don't try to tell me I am wrong about anything."
Yes, an expanded (and proper) view of the word love can mean caring for and about someone despite their behavior, and in the process of loving someone, help them be a better person. It is something, being the helpless sentimental panderer/placater that I am struggle with a lot.
But I'll warn you, I'm a scientist who has made it a mission to not back down to religious fundamentalism when it impinges on good science, yet who grew up in a very fundamentalist Church of Christ household (i.e. I've seen both extremes and everything in-between). So if its a religious debate you want, I'm not scared.
Chrome - who of course will debate friendly, and for the sake of Heywyre, somewhere other than her thread.
"Recollect me darlin, raise me to your lips, two undernourished egos, four rotating hips"
