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Can I love him unconditionally? I think I pretty much have up until this point, wouldn't you say?

On the other hand, I am human and I do expect a certain amount of respect, love, understanding. H is great for telling me how "understanding and patient" I have been. But, there comes a time when we have to draw the line in the sand, and this is the time.

However, I am hoping it will be done by someone else (ST) that is not as close to him emotionally as I am. Perhaps that is what he needs.


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1st A-bomb - Nov 27/02
2nd A-bomb - Dec 13/06
together 21 years
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COG wrote: "Do you want a trained animal who'll jump and sit at your command, or a human being that really loves you in return. Two different outcomes requiring two different approaches. Just keep your minds open."

I want one that won't bring home STDs.

-NOPkins-


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-An affair is the embodiment of entitlement, fueled by resentment and lack of respect.
-An infidel will remain unreachable so long as their sense of entitlement exceeds their ability to reason.
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I give up!


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you'll never shake my confidence and faith in what miracles come to those who wait, to those who love like Jesus loves.

I believe you mean that 100%. The problem with using religion to justify social arrangements (in this case a bad M), is that it can blind you to reality. But I can see how that would be very appealing. "If I just trust in God then I don't have to take any personal responsibility" (?) I don't think Jesus would support that line of thinking. It's like the old joke of the guy waiting for God to come rescue him and the man ignores all of the real life people who God sent to help him. Taking action and not just hoping and praying and being patient for some miracle to happen seems to be a much more effective approach. I know you disagree but Heywyre's H needs to show some actions (like doing the homework) before he deserves her complete love, trust, and patience.
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Funny thing, I thought that the bible is full of truth. I thought that the truth was a positive thing to give someone.


For a book of truth it has been used to promulgate more lies than any other book in history.

Sorry about the pollute, feeling cynical about organized religion lately.

There is no such thing as unconditional love. If someone consistenly abuses you time and time again, and you allow it and continue to do everything they want and be a doormat, its not love anymore IMO, and it certainly isn't self-love.

Of course, that is JMHO

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Preach it brother Chrome!



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Chrome, I'm right there with you. That's all I'm going to say about this though...going to stay out of any relgious conversation other than that.


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Funny thing, I thought that the bible is full of truth. I thought that the truth was a positive thing to give someone.


For a book of truth it has been used to promulgate more lies than any other book in history.

Sorry about the pollute, feeling cynical about organized religion lately.

There is no such thing as unconditional love. If someone consistenly abuses you time and time again, and you allow it and continue to do everything they want and be a doormat, its not love anymore IMO, and it certainly isn't self-love.

Of course, that is JMHO

Chrome


Sure there's unconditional love. I can love all of humanity, and I should, but that doesn't mean I want them to treat me like crap, or be married to them for that matter. A lot of the Christian misconceptions about "love" stem from a simple translation error. The Greek word "agape" in all those heartwarming wedding formulas really means "charity". You know, disinterested, brotherly good-will and affection. Which is what all Christians should cultivate towards their fellow humans, and which, in the Gospels or the letters of St. Paul for example, God is said to feel towards us.

But that doesn't mean they should be allowed to get away with bad behaviour, or not helped along in their personal growth.

Aren't you glad they sent me to Catholic school? ;\)

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Chrome, I'm right there with you. That's all I'm going to say about this though...going to stay out of any relgious conversation other than that.


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Chrome, I'm right there with you. That's all I'm going to say about this though...going to stay out of any relgious conversation other than that.


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