I hear ya Lou, especially with the high D rate as it is, and continued feminist beliefs that women don't really need a man (at least not full-time, lol) to be happy, it's not surprising you see many women just throwing in the towel. I can see the appeal. A part of me thinks wouldn't it be great to live by myself, do what I want, anytime I want, date anyone I want, and move on when it gets too serious or boring. I'D be in control, which I think a lot of women feel like they aren't. Is it fantasy? Maybe for some. But I know a few women who live like that now and I kind of look a them in awe. One woman is about 41 years old, no kids, 3 years D. She says she LOVES living alone and making her own decisions. She is currently dating a 23 year old Boy Toy (who I met) and he is walking sex. She says it's great. She figures he'll get bored with her soon and vice versa and she'll just find someone else. She likes them young because they don't have any expectations and she remains in Control. I find it quite fascinating. But again, she doesn't have kids, so I think that is key factor. Frankly, I don't see why people even get M if they don't want kids. But that's for another discussion. LFL