Originally Posted By: MJontheMend
... Also, after just a brief foray into the dating world, I'm starting to get p*ssed off at the LDW of the world again (which is a shame after I worked so hard to gain compassion and a feeling of sisterhood) because they've messed up all these middle-aged guys they spent time married to. Now I have to go around giving men "permission" to be sexual with me. The LDW are exerting a tyranny of the majority over the online dating world. In an article put out by Match.com about the 10 worst things a guy can do on a first date, the writer mentioned "trying to aggressively get a kiss" as a big turn-off. WTF? No wonder I've been feeling like I've been transported to "Pleasantville" on some of my dates. It's like I have to look down to make sure I'm not actually wearing a pink circle skirt with a poodle embroidered on it.

Interesting how this bit of information has eluded you until now. We are the same age, and I can tell you, this is how we've been programmed for the last generation or so. I guess maybe its because this sort of societal programming is typically lost on those who are not the intended target. (men, in this case).
anyway, for as long as I can remember:
"aggressive" is bad.
"aggressive" is a serious threat to your life, freedom, and property.
"aggressive" = date rape.
"aggressive" will land you in jail.
yeah, dammit, you better ask permission, lest you find yourself in big, big trouble.
You don't have to even actually "be" aggressive. Just ask a young dr. named William Smith...or the entire Duke U. lacrosse team. All a young lady has to do is wake up and find herself unhappy with her behavior the night before, and decide she wants to re-write history, and your life is ruined.

I've even seen propaganda films made for male college students that don't just imply, but state explicity: "you must ask p e r m i s s i o n". for every step. "may I hold your hand?" "May I kiss you?" "May I touch..."

That's just the way it is today, ladies. You can't have it both ways.
Personally, I was horrified by yesterday's description of John Wayne literally dragging his wife through the streets. I don't care how characters like Deida or Dr. Laura define "manliness". I don't think you really want to go back there.