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This was posted on the 4060 site by Inhell, and I think it has a place here

Did your spouse tell you, "I love
you, but I'm not IN LOVE with you?"
What does that statement mean?

A person who says, "I love you, but I'm not IN
LOVE with you," is making a distinction between 2
different feelings. But NEITHER of those feelings
are love!

When a person says, "I love you, but I'm not IN
LOVE with you," they're saying that I CARE about
you but I'm not EXCITED about you.

CARING about someone is a good thing. It's
reflective of CONCERN. But it's different than
love. I care about the starving children in
Africa, but I don't love them.

Being EXCITED about someone is also a good thing.
But it's different than love. I might be excited
to have a relationship with the President of the
United States or a Hollywood star, but that
doesn't mean I love them.

While someone who says, "I love you, but I'm not
IN LOVE with you" seems to be making a
distinction between "different loves;" in fact,
they are expressing their confusion about what
love really is. And that's why they're having
marital problems and maybe even an affair
(because who are they IN LOVE with?).

Love is something we articulate in the vocabulary
of ACTION. Love is a verb. It's not a feeling you
get from another PERSON; it's an experience you
receive as a result of DEEDS YOU DO for another
person.


"I love you, but I'm not IN LOVE with you" is a
cop out. It basically means that I have no clue
how to make a relationship last LONG-TERM so I'm
exiting to get high from another short-term
romance. But whoever they're IN LOVE with now
will also eventually hear, "I love you, but I'm
not IN LOVE with you."

Of course, this is all fine and good, but it's
really your spouse who needs to hear this, right?

Do NOT print this out and give it to them.

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Simon

I saw this post on the 40/60 board the other day and though how true it was, although with my husband i did even get the ILYBNILWY speech, i just got the I feel empty speech.

I am so sorry that you have been having a rough time lately, i think that your wife must be one crazy lady leaving a devoted husband like you. I truly hope that one day she comes to her senses and realises that the grass is not greener. In the mean time i wish you peace and self forfilled happiness.

Take care

Nicky


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H 33
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No but Simon It was beautifully stated and maybe i should print it out and put in my fridge......

as that was the speech I got with my husband...you too? The whole MLC thing is mind boggling at best....but when I heard the verbage is the same.....yeowzaaaaa! How anyone can say this doesnt exist as an illness....disease? Dont know what to call it but, but it is real to us....thay all say the same damned things let alone the behaviors!!

I wish you the best ...you are a very special person who has willingly shared the pain of your journey to help others/color][color:#000099]

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Me 53
H 51
OW 25
Bomb may 06
left june 8/ 06
ILYBNILWY (twice!)
7/6/07 H wants to come home
7/21/07 H comes home
7/07 -7/08 long haul letting go of OW
now piecing in earnest

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I got all the speaches,

THE ILYBN...,
The I feel numb...,
the I feel empty...,
the I've changed...,
The Its not you its me...,
The There's no one else, I am not going from the frying pan into the fire...,

All a cop out!

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ILYBNILWY 2x
I am all burned out
Nothing left to give
you should have seen this coming
I want to try with OW....that was after....shes a friend....its not about her
Dont I deserve to be happy?
It was always about the money for you....I have none you spent it all
The classic re-write...I was unhappy for a year to I have always been unhappy for all 25 yrs.

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Me 53
H 51
OW 25
Bomb may 06
left june 8/ 06
ILYBNILWY (twice!)
7/6/07 H wants to come home
7/21/07 H comes home
7/07 -7/08 long haul letting go of OW
now piecing in earnest

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I also got

I want to live life on "the edge" (huh?)
Loving someone is too much pressure
I never wanted to get married
I never wanted kids
I never wanted a dog!!

I look at these now, and they're pretty funny!

Simon -

That's exactly how I feel about "love" - thanks for posting it.


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I got the:

I don't think I ever loved you.
We got married too young.
Ow is my best friend.
I love someone else.
I still want to be your friend.
I can't stand you.
Your mother forced us to get married.

I could go on and on...


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Let's see, I got:

ILYBNILWY
It is not about you
You're a good mother and wife
OUr marriage is good
I don't know why this happened
I never intended it to happen
Five years from now, we will all be laughing about this

Then we got:

H and OW will be together for however long it takes
It is a love like no other
I don't know why I love her
Whoever said I was going to divorce your mom and marry OW?
I consider myself married to OW not you
I never want to sleep with you again


The Bomb: 08/05
H moves out: 06/2006
H moves back: 01/07 & Out again: 01/07
H moves back: 03/08 & Out again: 04/08
H moves back: 05/09 & Out again: 07/09
Divorced 08-12
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Mort Fertel has a website. It is called http://www.marriagemax.com/

He has a program that you can buy. I haven't bought it, but I do subscribe to his newletter. He has some interesting things to say. I generally like reading his stuff.

I got;

ILYBNILWY
It's not you it's me
You deserve better
I just don't have the feelings a wife should have
Your good to me and a good father
I just don't want to be married anymore
I'm miserable in this marriage
I've been trying to tell you for 2 years
I just can do it anymore
I can't be myself around you
I've changed (but then I got, I can't change the way I am feeling and you can't change the way I'm feeling)
Etc....


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Bomb 1/28/07
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oh yeah H told a friend...I never thought it could this way...me and OW.....hurl


Me 53
H 51
OW 25
Bomb may 06
left june 8/ 06
ILYBNILWY (twice!)
7/6/07 H wants to come home
7/21/07 H comes home
7/07 -7/08 long haul letting go of OW
now piecing in earnest

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