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NOP & Cobra,

This going back and forth is helping how?

Cobra I see a big difference between you and NOPS, at least at this point. YOU are here asking for help in your situation, or at least have been fairly recently....knowing your FOO isues IS helplful to help guide you, when you let us or want us to.

NOP's has (for the most part) worked his way through his martial problems now and is here to support/help others who are asking for help. It's not necessary at this point to delve into his FOO issues. If he were asking for the help, then I could see it being helpful...but right now, it's not necessary to have that info. Challenging him on it doesn't seem productive to me.



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I don't really see the point of Nop detailing his FOO at all, myself. FOO issues just "are". Some will affect you, obviously, but in the end, you need to accept them. If he was able to overcome a difficult childhood to have a good relationship with his wife, his daughter, and his family/friends, I don't see how discussing them would help them, or him. Nop is here mainly to help others, which is quite generous .. his own sitch seems stable.

If he had the kind of childhood I think he had (I can relate) there wouldn't even be any value in it for other posters, because it is just SO out there that no one who hasn't lived it could relate. It wouldn't be helpful, and could be quite damaging.

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Originally Posted By: Greeneyedlass

NOP's has (for the most part) worked his way through his martial problems now and is here to support/help others who are asking for help. It's not necessary at this point to delve into his FOO issues. If he were asking for the help, then I could see it being helpful...but right now, it's not necessary to have that info. Challenging him on it doesn't seem productive to me.


I see we posted at the same time. Great minds think alike, and all that. ;\)

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GEL,

This going back and forth is helping how?

Beats me. I just don’t like him taking such a holier than thou position on things and having no tolerance for any one challenging him.

Challenging him on it doesn't seem productive to me.

I disagree. One of the things that really bothered me about Nop in the past was that you would put out blind recommendations with little explanation of reasoning to back it up. That doesn’t mean his advise wasn’t good, because I usually thought it was. But people here, including myself, have a lot of fear and anxiety to deal with and implementing advice purely on faith in an anonymous poster is not easy to do. It is even less easy when that poster does not wish to divulge much about himself, his past, or how he came to the believe in a particular piece of advice. This board is about learning and understanding, not simply accepting on blind faith.

Nop could do himself a great favor by associating more of a person to the advice he gives, rather sounding like Big Brother offering some prophetic wisdom just because he said so. It is no accident Nop uses that strategy.


SG,

Some will affect you, obviously, but in the end, you need to accept them…..I don't see how discussing them would help them, or him.

I really can’t believe you believe this.

Nop is here mainly to help others, which is quite generous .. his own sitch seems stable.

I agree. So why is discussion of FOO so threatening?

CE,

Maybe he or one of his relatives is a public figure, who would be recognized by detailed descriptions of the NOP family situation.

Pleeeeeze….. I think even the National Enquirer would have a hard time making such an association stick.


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Zactly SouthernGirl ;\)


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Cobra,

FWIW, I don't think NOPS has EVER taken a holider than though attitude; he's never come across that way to me....but you have in my perception, honestly it truly appears to me that YOU don't like to be challenged either because when you are you often do exactly what you said NOP's does.

That's just my take on it though. Right now you two remind me of two alpha dogs circling each other trying to win leadership of the pack. That's not calling names either, that's an observation.


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Originally Posted By: Cobra

I really can’t believe you believe this.


Yes, dear. I believe it. With all my heart.

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I agree. So why is discussion of FOO so threatening?


I never got the vibe that it was threatening to him. *shrugs*

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Originally Posted By: Cobra
I agree. So why is discussion of FOO so threatening?


We see this so differently for me this statement gets turned to..."why is this disucssion of FOO necessary?"


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There's a rather popular saying where I live:

"Never get into a pissing fight with a skunk."

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Originally Posted By: Corri
There's a rather popular saying where I live:

"Never get into a pissing fight with a skunk."

Corri


Yep. We have that quote where I live, too.

Luckily, I have skunk repellant. Critters just won't come near me.

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