MC, husband, I understand/hear what you guys are saying. I am just looking for a chance... It has been 5+ months and our M has not had a chance during this whole time. At onetime her C was pushing to get me to go with her to counseling. Now she tells me that her C is supporting her in her decision to leave me. From my point of view this is extermly irresponsible of her counseler to support this action without ever getting me into C with her. I also wonder if my W has the OM go with her to C to act as my fill-in. How messed up would that be? I do not know....I will just keep GAL and taking care of my DD's. If my W ever brings up another R talk I am just going to agree with everything that she is saying and not defend myself. I just don't see that conversation happening anytime soon.