Ladies maybe you have some insight for me here. How do I start chipping away at the wall my wife has up between the two of us? How do I open up her closed spirit?

Rightnow we are house mates that do not even interact. We have to when it comes to our girls, but, she is very guarded about letting it go any further then that.

Last night I went and talked to a lawyer. From a legal standpoint I haven't done anything that will hurt me if we go down the road towards D. But there is nothing legally that can be done to force us into MC. I was really hoping that if I filed for LS that I could also force MC. I guess that cannot be done. Also our state does not have any mandentory seperation for a year before a D can be final. So if the process starts there is no stopping it unless my W has a change of heart.

What I am thinking of doing is asking my FIL to talk my wife into MC. The reason I say my FIL is that over the last couple of months he has come down on her a couple of times and both those times my W stopped what she was doing and did what he said. He may or may not have any influence on her at this point, but, I really am hoping that we can get infront of a counseler and start working on our M.