jethro thankyou for your post. i needed an example. there are a lot of positives in your relationship. it took my h a couple monthes to really become totally "human" even after we started working on our R. these things take time to process for both people.

what about skunk instead of skank? skunk being the masculine version. i agree they must be in pain, because happy people do not set out to destroy another's family. i liked what you said about them flailing about in pain. it in no way gives them the right to spread their sh*t to others.

my mil who i really love and supported me so much in all this asked me what i thought i did in a past life to deserve the bad kharma i had in this marriage. i must have been an amazon warrior man killer.