You're right. It would make sense to me that if she were to read that article and think, "maybe I'll give this some more time given that the person writing the article has counseled thousands and probably knows a thing or two about this". I'm really starting to learn that if it would make sense to me, don't do or say it.

I have been doing the counter argument you mention. When she tells me there is nothing there and won't be. I usually respond with, there was so there will be. I will try your approach next time she goes there. Its true, someone that doubts your every move, questions, snoops and is jealous, is pretty unlovable and definitely unattractive. I wouldn't want to spend time around them. Yet, I know that I'm changed. You know what I'm talking about, I feel like I shed my skin or something. I don't even have the same thoughts anymore. I could care less who she is on the phone with, e-mailing or texting. Yet, getting someone to see that is next to impossible without time, time proves all things.

I have definitely put the things you mentioned into play, re; ILY, waiting for goodbye kisses or any affection for that matter, lingering/hanging out to chat, pretty much everything except taking the ring off. I think its time for the ring to go as well. She left for church a while ago, every ring but ONE, of course. You know what? Although I noticed it, I really didn't care. The only reason I noticed is because she was wearing a new torquise type thing on her middle finger, which caught my attention as we were saying goodbye. It really is the least of my worries at this point.

You know the only thing that really wrecks me at this point is losing the privilege of seeing my kids any time I want. I'm not kidding, there have been times where I have come home from a really rough night at work, walked into my D6's room at 3AM, sat on the floor next to her bed, put my hand on her stomach and felt it rising and falling with each breath, in that moment I knew that everything was cool, I really was alive and my kids would see a much different world than what I had just seen. Thought stopping that is more than I can do at this point, I've tried.

Leaping and letting go..., here I come.

Sven, I'm interested in the other program if it will piggyback on to the DB'ing stuff I'm doing now. E-mail me, cruxshadowsdude@yahoo.com

Last edited by tyler; 05/09/07 11:36 PM.