See my post #1025517 - Tue Apr 24 2007 09:14 AM. After that night, I called a db coach. She said h is depressed. I know that he definitely was that night, but I'm not sure if he has been otherwise. I talked to h about it a few weeks ago. He said, in an angry voice, that he is not depressed. That was a one-time thing. I haven't tried to convince him otherwise, but I do think he could have some kind of depression that keeps him from sleeping. He is a chronic worrier. He thinks out loud constantly. It isn't quite audible enough to hear what he is saying. He's done that all of his life. Trying to convince h that he should at least consider it, would be just as hard as talking to him about his testosterone.