Stubborn, I hope I didn't sound too negative in my last post! My point was just to put that conversation behind you. It probably did little good but also little damage. My W and I have had those convo's and it was the same stuff. I want to convince her that what she's doing is wrong and she wants to convince me that she's perfectly right to do what she did. It's no win. It would be better to ask "what would you like instead" or any future based questions. What you did or she did is in the past and neither of you can convince the other that you are right so don't bother. Maybe hit her with a little 180 like "Wow, it must have been so hard for you to live with someone you found so negative" Ever tried agreeing with her just to see the response? Really, there is truth to both sides of any sitch and right now you two have dug your trenches and are defending the good cause. Try something different.