IT'S HAPPENING ALL OVER AGAIN!!!!!!!!

[Heywyre]

Sorry to hear of your decision to throw in the towel RGM

It appears W has completely reversed rolls of actions as she descibes to outsiders. That she is the victim, the sacrificor, the one wronged.

I told you that was what she was probably doing. However, having said that, this is normal. Maybe not normal in YOUR world but definitely normal in HER world. My H was going through the same thing. There was nothing I could say without it always being my fault, him having excuses for everything, constantly defending and being nice to everyone except me. That has now done a complete turn-around. I am not saying things are perfect but how he views the world now is amazing compared to even a couple of weeks ago. For instance, about a month ago I asked him about why we don't kiss (passionately) he said "I never liked kissing" - talk about a put down. The other day he gave me one of his "superficial sister-like" kisses and actually said "you have nice kisses" and told me things will get better in that department. I just about fell over. I said, "I thought you didn't like kissing" and his response? "I don't remember ever telling you that and I don't know why I would have said that". Sheesh!!! So there you go.

They are not living in the same world as we are. However, in your particular case, I truly believe until your W actually realizes she needs some help (which she obviously isn't doing) she will never be open to working on herself and/or your R (just my opinion of course). I can't see how you can move forward with piecing if it is all one-sided. I can see working on the DB principles but piecing? Nope, it ain't gonna happen

Sorry for all your stress and hurt. And, please don't be sorry for anything. We are all here to help each other out and we will still be here for you. Please continue to post, even if only to journal and vent your feelings.

Take care (((RGM)))