Hi, I have been following your saga and it is alot like mine in the attitude that the x is showing. I agree, they have fallen and hit their heads; unfortunately not hard enough. Like you I've had it and I'm not going to be anyone's doormat anymore. They just don't seem to get it that this is the life they, not we, have chosen for themselves. With choices come consequences. Like you if my wife of 17 years wanted to have an R conversation then that would be a conversation we would have; until than she can live her life as she chooses and I am going to live mine as I coose. Good luck and don't let the child that your H is get to you.