That's how I feel, too. I cater to him, making his life easier, not complaining, walking on eggshells, and I have this feeling of insecurity still, as if I like you lonelyolive will push him back to ow if I am not very careful. He says it has ended, but from what I know about ow, they don't let go easily. I listened to the light his fire tapes by Dr. Ellen, and some of the stuff I heard on those messages from H's cell phone was like what Dr. Ellen was saying. So, I guess another thing about them, they may be trying to read up on "How to Steal Another Womans Husband", or some other books not designed for ow, but for us, because they want to be us. Is it really harder for them to let go of an EA than a PA?