Yeah, my H doesn't want to be controlled by anyone it's a miracle he lasted in the Navy for eight years.

Wow! I was noticing you have four little ones?? I have 3 girls 5, 7, & 9yrs.

Can you show me some of your tricks of to make 'em beleive it was their idea in order to get you want??

Sometimes he will slip and accidentaly let me know bits of not so good information about her, like one time he said he was not planning on staying w/ her WTF? and that she complains to much, but after he had to add that in that way her and I are alike, complain too much?? Thats a lie b/c since I have made quite a lot of changes in how I react to his tantrums, I let mostly everything just slide right off. I think what he meant as far as me "compalining" was when I first put my foot down and said I was not going to be waiting for him much longer. So, I gather that she was also pressuring him.

Can I ask you a very personal question??? I feel ashamed to ask,but if your not ML anymore how do you past the time (when your in need)? I have never been one to pleasure myself, so I am trying to just get really busy going out and doing things w/ the girls. I guess I have to back to asking God to take away my "desires" for him for now. I use to pray for that months ago when I first saw evidence of the PA and wanted to protect myself, but at times it's hard b/c I was always the one w/ the higher sex drive. But, hey, right now I have daughter sleeeping w/ me and that seems to help.