Quote: ------------------------------------------ No. She's just surviving. She's got her life, her friends, her kid's, and she's not willing to work on ANYTHING and I mean ANYTHING that has to do with sex. ------------------------------------------
Therein lies the rub. So the question becomes one of; what are you willing to do to unbalance the relationship?
I also understand that you feel that if you push in any way, that she is ready to walk.
Quote: ------------------------------------------ What do you mean by "her entitlement and self deception"? ------------------------------------------
The very fact that she maintains her position regarding "feelings" in your relationship indicates that she feels perfectly entitled to her opinion. That in and of itself, having an opinion, is not a bad thing, but since her opinion of feelings is generally in direct opposition to most commonly held psychological norms, one could call that self deception.
If you are going to affect your wife's attitude toward your relationship, then you are going to have to unbalance it somewhat. Since discussions haven't accomplished much, that leaves only more extreme measures.
If you take more extreme measures, then your wife walks. If I tell you how to manipulate her, then you and I break the rules.
That leaves one option, and that is to find or make a soft spot in her heart toward you. Somewhere that she can be reached. Do you think you know of a soft spot with her regarding you, or possibly toward you regarding the children?
-NOPkins-
I will ferret out an affair at any opportunity.
-An affair is the embodiment of entitlement, fueled by resentment and lack of respect. -An infidel will remain unreachable so long as their sense of entitlement exceeds their ability to reason.