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Let's also say he's willing to acknowledge these issues and deal with you with all his cards on the table. That there could be enough trust between you that when any of these things came up, either of you could kindly point it out. That you both would look at what each of you could do to make the R stonger and move in a positive direction.


This would be mooooore than enough, this would be a dream come true!!!

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Perhaps we should be looking at what we're really willing to accept from them and ourselves. It may not be perfect or even all we hope for, but it's a place to start.

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That's true Grace, but I want me dream to come true, ya know....waaahhhh...after all this...I want him to kiss my a$$!

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I also wonder if H seeks that honeymoon phase all the time...and just doesn't want to work at it...doesn't excuse the behavior and it is very selfish!!
HEELLLLOOOO we have kids! my poor daughters should have a full time father!
Just posted this on another thread...went to MIL today and all wedding pictures are down..but yet she says she doesn't want to see this over....thinks H is being a jerk! and he is going tanning to look younger...UGH...
I want to say something to MIL about the pictures being down but I don't want to hurt her feelings...I am very sad over it!

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Mom,

That's the whole blood is thicker than water thing. I wouldn't say anything to MIL. She probably just doesn't want him "mad" at her. Besides if you have a kid that does this kind of thing it's gotta hurt (unless your slime). Personally, I'd risk my kid being mad at me, but then I've never quite been the norm.

Nope, he doesn't want to "work" at anything right now. So, just smile and know that his selfish little a$$ is missing out on the really important stuff.

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Hi Mom - Thanks for the advice on my thread!!!

...in terms of your MIL and the wedding pics, if she is that upset, maybe the pics were an awful reminder to her. There really is no reason for her to lie to you about it, no matter what the reason she took the pics down, you can be certain it wasn't a cruel intention towards you. Everyone has their own personal feelings when it comes to these sitchs...as the LBS, we feel as though no one else should be hurting like we are and rightfully so, but the truth is our family members are hurting and they may do things to cope with that pain that seem odd to us. Your MIL may be dealing with some pain that she cannot express to you...you never know, maybe she just can't stand the sight of her own son right now!!!

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Grace, I guess I am not the norm either b/c if my son was doing this I would not let him live in the house at his convenience and I would tell him to get his @ss home to work on his marraige!

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I don't think she did it to hurt me...It is just so sad the whole thing...I feel like I am being dismissed from the family...we have kids together and I just feel sad that they have to go through this...
Today is just a sad day! Went o L to file counter complaint...YUCK

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mom,

I hate the sad days. Been there myself the last couple of days.
Yes, it's awful that the kids have to go through this. On the upside it teaches them what commitment is really about and you'll be able to look them straight in the eyes (regardless of how this all plays out)and homestly tell them you did EVERYTHING to save your family. Take pride in your dignity.

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I do take pride in my dignity...I am just so mad...H has not called to check on the kids since Tues!! H said nothing about seeing the D's on Easter and he has his sons!! H has a big family and everybody will be at MIL/FIL....You would think H would want all his kids there...
I will enjoy the day with my girls but I can't believe he would not even have ASKED me if he could see them! I am so ashamed of him right now...I think I might say that to him...How DARE he forget about his daughters!

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