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all i can say is wow

i have to assimilate this before i can make a comment ok? i just wanted you to know that i have read it, and i have read it again, and now i am going to print it out, because this is powerful stuff

thank you kaw, for such insight

oh, and i would very much like to ask you some questions on the shipping thing, can i private message you with my email? i will try that.

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oops, can't do it kaw, could you private message me with your email?

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I haven't been able to figure out how to enable the private messaging ... do you know how to set it up? If not, I'll post my email address for where I work.

'til later,
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can't enable it, i just tried, ugh

could you post your email?

thanks kaw

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thanks kaw, email sent, coming from a comcast account just so you know

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Kitti,
I have nothing to add here as I think KAW said it all! Break it down and work on it, butterfly effect works!

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thanks deb, i am so happy things went well for you

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Hi Kewlkitti,

I think we owe you an apology.

When we met up with you in the chat room tonight, we were having a bit of a party. We left the room, still logged in, and the kids started "chatting" with you. They had no clue what they were saying, just goofing around.

I know this was your first visit to the chat room. I hope we didn't put you off.

Although it does get kind of rowdy in there at times, you would at least usually be able to make sense of the conversation. Hope we didn't chase you away!

Please come back and visit in the chatroom again sometime, okay?

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Interesting, Kitti

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oh don't get me wrong. i am not giving up - but there is always something in the back of my mind that says "this is not going to work"






I'll put my psychology hat on here and suggest, Kitti, that this feeling/thought has its roots in one or another "Mistaken Belief" that you may or may not even be aware of.

These are common precursers of both anxiety and depression problems. They are the "Parents" of the negative thoughts we hear so often.

So what might your Mistaken Belief be?

Here are some common ones:

The world is a dangerous place

No one can be trusted

I don't deserve happiness

I don't deserve love

I'm somehow fundamentally "broken" (thus what works for others will not work for me)

Nothing I do can change things

People never really change

If any of these strike a chord, or a variation of your own comes up the thing to do is CHALLENGE this belief.

Where is the SOLID evidence for it? IS it in fact immutable? List all possible evidence that REFUTES this belief.

And WHY, even if you can find some evidence to support it, SHOULD you keep nurturing it when it brings nothing but negativity?

As I posted to Pam earlier today: I tell my students this:

Your thoughts are just thoughts...you don't have to believe all of them!"

"Sleep well!

Shiny





ooooooh shiny you are too good!

but I must ask...what if you feel ALL of those things in some form or another? obviosly we learned them along the way somewhere for a reason of, well, probably self preservation...so how then can we get our adult brains to unlearn such deep rooted ways of looking at things?

I know, I know...by looking at them and seeing if they are in fact true...but will our brains allow us to see truth from our own created fiction? or will we always see some sense of manipulation in everything?

pitiful aint it. we really can be our own demise.

aw damn it kitti I don't know...wish we could all just take some happy pill, oh wait a min we could...but that's not what we want is it?

so then how to find a way to re-learn or un-learn all this garbage that has allowed us to be self distructive instead of productive?

LL

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