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#168187 08/11/03 07:58 PM
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Hi everyone, this is completely pitiful, but I have forgotten how to copy over my last thread link!!

By the time I find the journal entry where the directions are, someone else will hopefully do it for me??? I just forget the last combo of keystrokes that will copy the url over.

Okay guess my time is up...looks like the old thread ran out. I will try to copy my summary over and update it a tad.

Wish me luck!

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Ha! Shiny's last thread

Getting closer to WHAT!?!


Relax. Appreciate. Be calm. Laugh. Enjoy. Be secure. Be loving. Be loved. Don't personalize. Don't ASSume. Accept. Be grateful.
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She scoops them all!

Here's the lengthy summary:

I’m 40 H (CJ)is 41. (M #2 for him, #1 for me)

Married 12 years. Three cats, no kids (by choice).

I teach psychology at a local University, H’s job has been “restructured” so he is currently unemployed. White collar professional. Now earning an M.A. in distance learning on-line.

Up until Aug of ’02, I would have rated our marriage at a 7/10. Shows what I knew!

We had ups and downs, arguments, issues surrounding my sarcasm, controllingness, perfectionism, anxiety (which were much bigger than I knew). Issues with physical intimacy, with me wanting more, H offering less.

Nothing dire, or so I thought. I’d bought marriage books, mentioned counselling a couple of years ago…H didn’t seem all that interested.

August 22 '02 Bomb #1 ….Three weeks after I have kidney surgery H comes home from a 2 hour trip to the beer store looking distant and depressed. I press ( ) and he admits to wanting a D! Talk about 2X4, I thought he was going to say the job had finally gotten to him!

My world falls apart, I ask, he says there “is” no OW. Was there? Yes, a one time only dinner and kiss on a business trip. He thought he was in love. I am crushed, beyond hurt. All of my anger disappears under a swirling vortex of self-loathing and despair.

Aug 25 ’02 , took H to our doctor, we both start on antidepressants, Xanax for me as well. H takes sick leave from work. I think we’re “working on things”, I assure him that leaving his job is fine with me. H is uncertain. He loves me but…is not IN love with me, you know the drill.

Things are good/bad, up/down, VERY uncertain and odd for months. H is going out to bars without me, staying out late, I’m not sure who I’m married to anymore.

Sept ’02 I buy DR and find tremendous relief in the MLC and Depression chapters. Start Dbing (which I’d been doing since the bomb without realizing it)

We start MC, (H promises to put 100% into repairing our M) which turns into private C for H. Things seemed to be going well for us, I thought his depression needed attention most. Dumb.

” Nov 27th ’02 “Bomb #2 , OW calls our house. Message I hear is “CJ, I don’t care if Shiny hears this, are you moving here or not!”

I pick up,. H tries to hang up the phone. OW and I have a loooong talk. Seems they met on a chat line about 18 months earlier. She’s the second OW he met there. EA’s turned to PA’s in both cases. All supposed “business trips”.

He’s told her an astonishing array of lies. Here’s a small sampling: we are separated, he’s moved out, our house is for sale, I’ve cheated on him, I won’t give him sex……

She e-mails me his latest messages to her and some digital photos of herself, her kids, and the two of them together…He has a ticket to fly out there (across country), bought her a diamond ring….daggers to the heart, my head is spinning. My anger returns for the night.

CJ figures he’s lost us both. Next day she calls again, and they’re on again! More head spinning…Next day I talk to him, feels like a battle for good over evil, for his very soul. Something changes in him and he vows to keep his word, to no longer lie, to no longer be driven by fear, to stay in town whether our M can be salvaged or not. He tells her (with me in the room) that they shouldn’t see each other any more. I feel it is a weak ending, but take him at his word.

Dec ‘02 We see another therapist, once…a miserable, expensive waste. I pull back, give him space, start doing more things on my own. Wishing he would join me, asking him to. But made the big mistake of telling everyone what happened (he didn’t want to be seen as “true blue” when he wasn’t), making it uncomfortable for him to socialize.

Family and friends are united in supporting my decision to try to work things out. Can’t believe this behaviour of H, totally out of character, not who they thought he was.

No reassurances from H, he swears there’s been no further contact, but strange behaviour continues….long walks, (this is Canada in the winter) 2 hour “runs to the video store”. No Christmas gift for me.

Jan ’03 , we find another C. Much better. 1st session H reveals that he wants to try to work things out…I weep with relief. Much blame still rests on my past behaviours which H classifies as “abusive”, so hard to hear. I was unaware of the extent of the damage I was doing at the time. Have a much better appreciation now.

Things start looking better. STD tests clear, we resume intimacy, start talking again, start connecting. All the while, I’ve done major 180’s in a variety of areas, most notably the anger, sarcasm, “freaking out over small stuff”, anxiety is well in hand, I’m much more laid back, criticism is almost non-existent. Lots of internal and external changes I am proud of. And although H doubts it, they are REAL!

Valentine’s day '03 …lingerie and wine. Just a card from H, but a very nice evening.

Things are looking better and better… .

February 25th '03: Bomb #3 . I wake up to another phone message (our machine is always on) from OW. This time she’s asking for our address. We talk again, she tell me that “this time” she’s breaking it off for real. And wants to send back the stuff H had sent/given to her (including family photos of his childhood).

My heart pounds, but it’s nowhere near the experience of Aug and Nov. Instead of “freaking out” and showing him the door (which H expected, and so too, probably would any sane person who doesn’t know about Dbing) I sit down and ask him to explain.

He does. Seems they were back in touch two days after their “break up” in Nov. She says he reached out to her, he says she called here while I was at work. Either way, it was back on. Since I now have the cell phone (which was my birthday gift to him in Nov.), she calls while I’m at work, he uses phone cards on our fax line, or he goes out to use pay phones. And e-mail, of course.

She sends me more e-mails, including a booked (then cancelled) plane ticket, professions of deep love for her from H, more lies (me catching him packing), nick-names, sickening, hurtful words.

His rationale : Early on in December he tried to cut loose from her, but she insisted they maintain contact. She does appear to be very controlling and more than a bit scary. She’d moved back in with her H and 2 boys, and was still insisting on talking to my H. He finds out she’s been married 3X, has cheated before, slept with her FIL!

In late Jan, H tried to end it with her again (saying it wasn’t fair to me, or her H and kids ) but she threatened to send me e-mails. Then demanded $500. H sent it. Lied to me when I asked about the bank statement. The A continued.

H says his end was just trying to keep her quiet, hoping she’d find someone else and disappear from his life. She leaves her H and little boys again, tells my H all about the guys constantly trying to pick her up, starts dating someone.

Feb 24th ’03, my H calls her and says it HAS to end (her new boyfriend insisted she stop talking to H, but she was willing to go behind his back)…hence her call to our house the next morning.

She likely thought I’d kick him out, and he’d turn to her for solace. Clearly she knows nothing about DB!

We rejoice, celebrate having her out of our life. H is pleasantly shocked by my reaction.

March ’03 …ups and downs, trying to “piece” this M back together. Trust issues, trying to process all of the hurt, all of the incredible details. H projects his behaviours onto me and accuses me of “flirting” on the bb, private messaging etc.

April ’03 We take a weekend trip together. Mostly good.

May ’03 We celebrate our 12th anniversary…I start a marathon of teaching.

…Still on that marathon, actually...last class is this Thursday, August 14th!

Sooo between May and now, things have been pretty good I'd say. If you want details, check out my old thread "what do I want from life"...I'm still not exactly sure, but I feel I'm getting closer.

Shiny

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Sage!! you scammer you! snuck in whilst I was re-entering my icons, did you???

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Quoting shinybear:
Sage!! you scammer you! snuck in whilst I was re-entering my icons, did you???

Shiny


bwhahahahahahahahaha!

I always feel a bit funny about posting "#1" on threads...kind of feels like "ha ha, I'm #1 on your thread of misery" but with you...well,I feel a bit better since you're in good shape

Sage



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#168192 08/11/03 08:36 PM
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"what do I want from life"...I'm still not exactly sure, but I feel I'm getting closer.

And there is the answer to Sage's question -- "Closer to What?"

Bwahahahahahah.....

Ya'll crack me up!

Jeannine


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Nice to flip over here and find this foolery after my rant!!!

I needed the laugh!



Pam

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so as to have the life that is waiting for us"
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Glad to oblige, ladies...even if it WAS unintentional!!!

Shiny

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I had fun with you guys last night!

Hope things are still going well.

When is your "tune up"? Just curious did CJ know there is a tune up being planned??

That would set David off if he didn't know and didn't agree to it!!


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so as to have the life that is waiting for us"
#168196 08/12/03 04:15 PM
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Hey Shiny! How are ya? DId you set up that session yet?? If I find a good MC, I am hanging on for dear life! This is always a fun thread- puts a smile on my mug.... ...so what are you gettin closer to again?

Shay

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