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Question - because I know this is going on and she knows that I know, should I be monitoring her emails and various electronic communications?

This affair she is having is with a guy who is married with wife and family in another state, should I confront him?

I am now taking on 17 year old daughter of wifes to try to get her through school. She is in a downward sprial herself? Should I make W responsible instead of me...

I am desperately looking for direction, support, advice and help...

It would be very much appreciated...

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Follow up...

I feel that m W is now using me... Used money that older daughter had, to pay for a school trip for younger daughter... Cost $600, we just didn't hve the money yet... Feel like W wants me to figure out how we can daughter back. But right now i feel there is now we...

Very frustrated...

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First of all....slow down and breathe...

This didn't happen overnight and it won't end overnight.

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Question - because I know this is going on and she knows that I know, should I be monitoring her emails and various electronic communications?


That is a decision you have to live with. Snooping is invasive, controlling , and ends up hurting you WAY more than her. It is also a form of deception, and betrayal. This isn't tit-for-tat here.

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This affair she is having is with a guy who is married with wife and family in another state, should I confront him?


My answer would be, to NOT do this...

He is not the reason you are here, just a symptom of the reason. Lowering yourself to his level....only you can live with that choice.

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I am now taking on 17 year old daughter of wifes to try to get her through school. She is in a downward sprial herself? Should I make W responsible instead of me...



Let me get this straight.....you have been with her for 9 of her years, yet she is STILL just your wife's daughter ?

The relationship between her and her Mother is theirs, not yours. It is not your job to fix that, it is your job to not interfere with it. take responsibility for your relationship with her....and only yours. If she has looked to you in the past for guidance, then do that.

There will be links coming along shortly that Cadet gets thanked way to seldom for....: )

Read them and understand what a person in crisis looks like....

Until then, slow down and give a little more info that might be helpful to others....

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Frustration = Anger.
You're angry and have every right to be.
What's under that anger though?

What expectations and messages ( what ego bruises are being pressed ) are you getting from your anger?

Is it " I can't understand anything." Where the expectation of yourself is that you should always understand, take charge, be decisive and initiate action? This core expectation of oneself usually triggers feelings of frustration and confusion.

Then the question becomes is that a reasonable expectation for you to have of yourself?

Or is it " I can't handle this. " Where the expectation is that you should always be courageous, confident, brave, strong and a good role model. This core expectation of oneself usually triggers feelings of fear and anxiety.

or is it " You aren't being fair." Where the expectation is that others should always be prompt, honest and reasonable toward you, they should respect you. This core expectation of oneself usually triggers feelings of disappointment and discouragement.


Then the question becomes is that a reasonable expectation for you to have of yourself?

Break it down. What are you really feeling?


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Glad you made your way over here.

Newcomers is good for DBing a WAS but honestly

the crazy sh!t happens over here. We have seen it all.

Mach is right...breathe and try to slow down.


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so what I am dealing with is not the typical divorce busting and/or divorce remedy methodology or philosophy.

Will I be able to use anything divorce busting and/or divorce remedy?

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it's 1 am and I can't sleep.

Gut is telling me W is at it IM'ing her various male friends either via AIM or Yahoo IM.

I feel like the biggest idiot right now...

W says she is not happy with me and looking for excitment in her life.

Not sure what to do...

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okay here is the latest...

I'm a coach involved in youth sports. The team I coach is playing in tournament about 50 miles from where we live.
The first game this weekend starts at 8:00 am.

I asked W if she wanted to go along. W said yes.

Then I told her about the first game, and she suggested that we use the Marriott points I have to stay the night before and potentially a second night. Room are usually $169 / night...

We haven't been intimate in I can't say how long... She says she wants it to be platonic, but is now wearing the cute PJ's...

Total receiving conflicting messages... How do I approach this weekend?

Advice needed badly!!!

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Straight up DB101 here...

What is the purpose of the trip ?

What are you expecting to happen ?

Go to coach those kids, and for nothing else...

Be upbeat, do not talk relationship with her, and act "as if"

MLC will take patience from you if you are going to outlast her...

Start with that now my friend.

Stop focusing on what you are or are not getting, and what she is or isn't doing for now....

I know this is hard, but I know it can be done...

Take some reading material with you and when you aren't with the kids, spend some time with yourself...

Let the rest go for the next few days......

Check out one of the threads Cadet posted the links on for some understanding of what you are dealing with....

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received a small break through...

about 5 yrs ago W changed positions, from a correctional officer in a facility to an admin at HQ.

There is a parole officer opening that she would like to do. W feels that the job she is in now is mundane and boring. W also feels that she does not get the respect that she has aquired with all the 18 year of experience she has accumulated in correction. W feels she treated like an Admin who doesn't know anything.

Given that and I have not done a good job at the following:
• Smiling
• Using a pleasant tone of voice
• Joking
• Listening (attentively)
• Showing appreciation (“Thank you!”)
• Showing interest (“What happened at your meeting today?”)
• Offering sympathy or understanding ( “Oh, that’s too bad.”)
• Naming feelings (“I guess you felt upset when he said that.”)
• Nurturing (“Would you like a nice hot cup of tea?”)
• Acts of kindness (“I cleaned your dish for you.”)
• Giving positive feedback (compliments, praise, acknowledgement)
• Using positive labels (“You’re so thoughtful.”)
• Using positive words (“The weather is fantastic.”)
• Being in your own good, up-beat mood
• Agreeing
• Using affectionate terms (endearments, pet names, words of love)
• Affectionate touch (when it is wanted)
• Physical intimacy (when it is wanted)
• Giving gifts, treats
• Offering help, assistance or advice
• Giving unsolicited, assistance or advice help (when it is wanted)
• “News, weather and sports” (small talk about the events of the day or interesting topics)
• Greetings and salutations (“Have a nice day.”)
• Forgiving (“You didn’t mean to break my favourite dish…”)
• Compromising, being flexible

I have been more of:
• Frowning, looking unpleasant
• Unpleasant tone of voice, snarling, mumbling
• Showing lack of interest
• Disagreeing
• Your own bad mood or poorly managed stress
• Making requests
• Giving instructions (unless requested)
• Making negative comments (“This house is falling apart.”)
• Using negative labels (“You are being rude.”)
• Verbal abuse (Insults, put-downs, sarcasm, , mocking, swearing)
• Giving negative feedback (criticism, correction, complaints, judgment, lectures)
• Any show of anger or displeasure (raised voice, slammed door, hanging up phone, walking out)
• Threats
• Ignoring (withdrawal, stonewalling, sulking, lack of attention, neglecting)
• Acts of unkindness
• Interrogating
• Challenging
• Embarrassing, humiliating
• Rigidity, inflexibility
• Directing, insisting, controlling, forcing, steamrolling

So I am not sure going dark or doing a 180 would be in my best interest.

W in fact said at one time that Positive attention is like an aphrodisiac.

So it looks like I need to work on myself and improve in being more positive...

Interested in comments, suggestions, opinions, advice

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