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Time for a new thread...ended that last one on a high note.

http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2122500#Post2122500

Well, I got my flight to CO booked, and can't wait to spend 10 days with the two most absolutely wonderful little people on earth.

Trying to figure out how to handle things this time. Last time I was there I told her that I'd let her know what we're up to and that she's welcome to join us anytime. But, given the conversation from the other day where she told me I'm not giving her the space she needs, I'm not sure if I should do that again or not. I certainly don't want to exclude her from anything, but I have a hard time seeing the difference between that and not inviting her to join us. I also hate the fact that the kids can't have both mommy and daddy at the same time, and don't want to contribute to that in any way. On the other hand, one of her complaints has been that I always try to get her to do things she doesn't want to do. She could also see it as me trying to use the kids to get time with her. What does everyone think?


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give her all the space in the world.
the only way to influence someone
is to talk about what they want
and how they can achieve it.

your kids are learning from you
how to handle the hard issues.

don't worry about her issues.you can't help
her. plan something fun with your little
girl.


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Leave it open ended so she can refuse, no expectations.
If you don't ask the answer is always no, so what do you really have to lose?

So: "W, you are most welcome to come if you wish, we'd enjoy your company."

Don't say anything else. Don't try to persuade.

You're allowing her to make a decision here with no pressure.

As long as you're indifferent the answer and behave that way too, she may surprise you.

Just my two cents.


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IDK, I don't think I would even ask. Just go have a good time. If she is interested in attending, she can ask you. JMHO.


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Navy, I’ve been following your thread wishing I could offer something. So here is another opinion.

SC is right if you don’t ask the answer is No. Just keep it neutral. No expectations no pressure.

Go and have a good time with the Ds. If it was much later in the year I’d suggest RMNP.


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Laying here in bed and listening to some music. "Times Like These" by Foo Fighters came on...I'm not usually one to pay much attention to lyrics, but they seemed applicable to a lot of our situations so I wanted to share them with everyone:

I am a one way motorway
I’m the one that drives away
Then follows you back home
I am a street light shining
I’m a wild light blinding bright
Burning off alone

It’s times like these you learn to live again
It’s times like these you give and give again
It’s times like these you learn to love again
It’s times like these time and time again

I am a new day rising
I’m a brand new sky
To hang the stars upon tonight
I am a little divided
Do I stay or run away
And leave it all behind?

It’s times like these you learn to live again
It’s times like these you give and give again
It’s times like these you learn to love again
It’s times like these time and time again


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D9, S6
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Unofficially Separated (long distance): 1/2/11
W came home: 3/17/11
EE: July 2012
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Also wanted to dedicate this song to my W...I am so sorry for the pain you are going through right now...and I am here for you now and forever.

Don't give up
It's just the weight of the world
When your heart's heavy
I...I will lift it for you

Don't give up
Because you want to be heard
If silence keeps you
I...I will break it for you

Everybody wants to be understood
Well I can hear you
Everybody wants to be loved
Don't give up
Because you are loved

Don't give up
It's just the hurt that you hide
When you're lost inside
I...I will be there to find you

Don't give up
Because you want to burn bright
If darkness blinds you
I...I will shine to guide you

Everybody wants to be understood
Well I can hear you
Everybody wants to be loved
Don't give up
Because you are loved

You are loved
Don't give up
It's just the weight of the world
Don't give up
Every one needs to be heard
You are loved


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M: 35
W: 35
T14, M11
D9, S6
ILYBINILY: June 09
Unofficially Separated (long distance): 1/2/11
W came home: 3/17/11
EE: July 2012
Dropped the rope: Oct 2012
Piecing: April 2013
Not piecing: April 2014
Stuck.
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I like it! Good song

How are you doing?


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Hanging in there. Had some serious internal conflict with my goals of saving my M today, but I came to the same conclusion as before...I'm not giving up, ever.


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M: 35
W: 35
T14, M11
D9, S6
ILYBINILY: June 09
Unofficially Separated (long distance): 1/2/11
W came home: 3/17/11
EE: July 2012
Dropped the rope: Oct 2012
Piecing: April 2013
Not piecing: April 2014
Stuck.
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We all have them. In the beginning I was angry, why would I do this for this woman?

When you lose the anger and start to do it to become a better person you are on your way.

The feelings come and the feelings go.

Most people never come this far I would say over 60% never take this road..............what do you know isn't second M divorce rate over 60%

I wonder why.


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