Well, unfortunately i am back......3 years later

[soleil]

So she then says, i know you are not going to like this and it will be hard to take, but my pastor has been talking about forgiveness, and i have asked God to forgive me for marrying you. The marriage wasnt ordained by God, it was a convenience thing

Wow.

So we kept walking and trick or treating, then she says, you know there is absolutely no chance for reconciliation this time.

Let her go.

Dropping the rope while kids are involved - remain cordial/polite with your wife but keep convoersations to a minimum and only about co-parenting. She doesn't see a chance for reconciliation ( per her words) so remove yourself from being "there" for her. Go out, get a new shirt, new hair cut, meet up with friends, go tot the gym, be a good father, get a new hobby.... GAL!

[Ruikee]

This morning WAW called to say good morning to the baby whom i had overnight. Once finished, I said ok have a great day, goodbye, and she stopped me and asked how i was doing, i said fine. Not reading into that but it was something out of the norm. Then she asked me not to attend anymore of the SS soccer games. She took him to counseling and there is alot of stuff rolling around in his head, and he needs to be away from me for a while, not saying its forever, but please respect that. And i agreed and said goodbye.......

[pinhead]

This morning WAW called to say good morning to the baby whom i had overnight. Once finished, I said ok have a great day, goodbye, and she stopped me and asked how i was doing, i said fine. Not reading into that but it was something out of the norm. Then she asked me not to attend anymore of the SS soccer games. She took him to counseling and there is alot of stuff rolling around in his head, and he needs to be away from me for a while, not saying its forever, but please respect that. And i agreed and said goodbye.......

This strikes me as really odd. You've been in your SS's life for nine years, and suddenly you can't attend soccer games.

[Ruikee]

This morning WAW called to say good morning to the baby whom i had overnight. Once finished, I said ok have a great day, goodbye, and she stopped me and asked how i was doing, i said fine. Not reading into that but it was something out of the norm. Then she asked me not to attend anymore of the SS soccer games. She took him to counseling and there is alot of stuff rolling around in his head, and he needs to be away from me for a while, not saying its forever, but please respect that. And i agreed and said goodbye.......

This strikes me as really odd. You've been in your SS's life for nine years, and suddenly you can't attend soccer games.

Yes, i agree, something happened somewhere. The day they left, he came up, hugged me really hard and said I love you. Sent a couple of emails to me for a few days, even called me once, then nothing. When i went over to trick or treat with my S, he never even came down to see me. When i dropped the baby off at the front door, he was handing out candy, and he walked away and went into another room. W said you really hurt us, thats why he is acting that way.

[pinhead]

You haven't mentioned what you think the issues were for her unhappiness. What did you do that

really hurt us, thats why he is acting that way.

?

[Coach]

and i have asked God to forgive me for marrying you. The marriage wasnt ordained by God, it was a convenience thing,

and he walked away and went into another room. W said you really hurt us, thats why he is acting that way.

Could she be having a A with her first H , the SS Dad?


Ask what you did to hurt the both of them? Talk to the C.

[Starsky309]

This morning WAW called to say good morning to the baby whom i had overnight. Once finished, I said ok have a great day, goodbye, and she stopped me and asked how i was doing, i said fine. Not reading into that but it was something out of the norm. Then she asked me not to attend anymore of the SS soccer games. She took him to counseling and there is alot of stuff rolling around in his head, and he needs to be away from me for a while, not saying its forever, but please respect that. And i agreed and said goodbye.......

This strikes me as really odd. You've been in your SS's life for nine years, and suddenly you can't attend soccer games.

AGREE. Can you say "alienation"???

[Ruikee]

and i have asked God to forgive me for marrying you. The marriage wasnt ordained by God, it was a convenience thing,

and he walked away and went into another room. W said you really hurt us, thats why he is acting that way.

Could she be having a A with her first H , the SS Dad?


Ask what you did to hurt the both of them? Talk to the C.

I did ask her that while we were waiting for visitation papers at mediation on Monday, I said, What is the real reason this is happening, she said the way i treat her and the SS. She said i am a better father to S than a husband to her and father to SS.

No affair with the first H. He beat her, and the SS has not had contact with him for over a year, he is remarried and non existent in his sons life.

I do have a sarcastic personality with comments i make, sometimes she laughs and other times she complains about them. I guess it depends on what kind of mood shes in.

I do at times do the same with the SS. He has a sensitive personality being with his mother so long with no father figure before we were together. I guess its my stupid way of trying to get him to be more of a boy....

I am not in counseling with them, so i do not think i would be able to ask.

[Khudoo]

This morning WAW called to say good morning to the baby whom i had overnight. Once finished, I said ok have a great day, goodbye, and she stopped me and asked how i was doing, i said fine. Not reading into that but it was something out of the norm. Then she asked me not to attend anymore of the SS soccer games. She took him to counseling and there is alot of stuff rolling around in his head, and he needs to be away from me for a while, not saying its forever, but please respect that. And i agreed and said goodbye.......

This strikes me as really odd. You've been in your SS's life for nine years, and suddenly you can't attend soccer games.

I am in a bit of the same situation with a SS (11) that i have been heavily involved with most of his life. When the M was good I took him to the huge majority of all his sports and functions and prob spent more time with him than his mother as she worked shifts.

After the Separation i was shut out of his life for much the same reasons and he started acting strange towards me and it hurt. Recently when some mutual friends were minding him he opened up to them and said he really misses me and realizes all i did for him but did not want to anger his mom by being nice to me. He then asked if he could write me a card which he did. W went ballistic when she heard about it.

So maybe his reaction to you is just coming from a desire not to anger her. An angry WAW is not always thinking of the kids

/ Khudoo

[Ruikee]

This morning WAW called to say good morning to the baby whom i had overnight. Once finished, I said ok have a great day, goodbye, and she stopped me and asked how i was doing, i said fine. Not reading into that but it was something out of the norm. Then she asked me not to attend anymore of the SS soccer games. She took him to counseling and there is alot of stuff rolling around in his head, and he needs to be away from me for a while, not saying its forever, but please respect that. And i agreed and said goodbye.......

This strikes me as really odd. You've been in your SS's life for nine years, and suddenly you can't attend soccer games.

I am in a bit of the same situation with a SS (11) that i have been heavily involved with most of his life. When the M was good I took him to the huge majority of all his sports and functions and prob spent more time with him than his mother as she worked shifts.

After the Separation i was shut out of his life for much the same reasons and he started acting strange towards me and it hurt. Recently when some mutual friends were minding him he opened up to them and said he really misses me and realizes all i did for him but did not want to anger his mom by being nice to me. He then asked if he could write me a card which he did. W went ballistic when she heard about it.

So maybe his reaction to you is just coming from a desire not to anger her. An angry WAW is not always thinking of the kids

/ Khudoo

Yeah i agree, same deal here, at one time i asked him if he missed me, and he said yes when you and mommy arent argueing no when are are. Probably a loyalty issue maybe?