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Start living. I have been mopey, hurt, lonely for too long. I deserve better. I have faith that this too shall pass and life will be better in 2009.


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Cause you will make it better.



Experience is a brutal teacher, but you learn. My God, do you learn. - C.S. Lewis

Life is usually all about how you handle Plan B. - Jack3Beans

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Yes, I will.


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Originally Posted By: frank_D
Yes, I will.


Yes you will.

Happy New Year Frank.


Change the Policy.
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Also some new and improved emoticons would be nice!

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Start living. I have been mopey, hurt, lonely for too long. I deserve better. I have faith that this too shall pass and life will be better in 2009.


I am with you, my brother. Let's forge boldly forward together. Happy New Year!

Tom


Letting Go Tom; JUST DO IT!
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my A: Fall 05
W found out: Feb 06; separated immediately
W pursued D, final 7/11/07

me: 43
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So, W broke the 6 day silence.

Earlier today I spoke with D(almost)18 about my intention to tell W that I do not want her coming into my house any more. I told her that if she still needed that morning 'connection' with her mom I would still allow it. She said "Well Dad, we seem to fight more often in the mornings so I think it's a good idea.

About an hour later W calls me and I don't answer. She leaves a vague message about 'scheduling time with the girls'.

So I call her back.

W: D(18) said you have something to tell me about me coming to the house. She said you don't want me around any more.

Me: Ok, well she didn't speak correctly. What I said was that I think we need to continue our 'Separation' and that means you don't come here any more to spend time with them.

W: Ok, but I keep inviting them to my place but they don't ever seem to want to spend any time with me. I get the sense that they are getting negative stuff from you.

Me: No, I never talk you down, and I push them to spend time with you when I hear they have turned you down on an offer to do something. They have their own minds and can form their own opinions.

W: Well I never bad mouth you either. (me thinking: what would you say if you did?)

Me: Whatever is the issue, it's between you and the girls.

W: Well I'll keep inviting them over to my place. I was wondering if I could have them on tuesdays in addition to thursdays? Does that work for you?

Me: Of course, I always want you to spend more time with them.
(which, I do)

W: Well, I invite them but they will never make a commitment to coming, and they seem like they don't like me.

Me: Sorry to hear that.

I also told her I would set it up so she could get her E-Mail via the web. I asked her to come and take her computer and she said there was 'no room' in her room. Kind of odd since her friends house is an exact duplicate of our house and both my kids have desks and computers in their rooms.

I told her I'd set up remote access to her E-Mail by the weekend. Then she has NO reason to come to my house.

W: I need the tax forms and other paperwork so I can do the loan/grant requests for D(18) for college. Remember I told you about that a few months ago?

Me: Yes, and I'll have all of that for you next week. The IRS paid me a visit and I have to get certain paperwork to them right away.

W: Oh, really? Are you ok? Is there anything I can do?

Me: (laugh) um, no, not really. (perhaps you could take responsibility?)

W: ok, well let me know if there is.

By now she is in a down / depressed tone of voice. I think it's because she realizes that her daughters just don't like her choices and she can't blame it on her husband any more. And worse, when she 'offers' to 'help' I laugh at her. I mean, what could she possibly do? Give the IRS guy a BJ? Come over and give me a backrub? Stop being an asshat?

Why do they say these things? Are they nuts?


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The thing is, she seemed to expect me to feel sorry for her problems with the girls.

Why?


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Ummm...because you've been cleaning up after her for 2 decades?

WTH does it matter, Frank?

Her problems with the girls are HER PROBLEMS with the girls.

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sorry for the hijack Frank but i just saw Amy's post. I can't seem to find an active thread for you lady.... been reading your last in the prayer forum.... wow.... some pretty interesting developments!!!!! Hope all continues to improve for you. Sooooo, you going to bring us up to date anytime soon?


Psa 51:10 Create in me a clean heart, O God, and renew a right spirit within me.
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Nothing happening, LnF.

Over & out.

But we have second row floor seats to the Skynyrd concert Friday night!


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