for those reading or about to read crucial conversations make sure you have the right book...there is a book with the same name out there (well, w/o the stuff after the colon) you want the one titled: "crucial conversations: tools for talking when stakes are high" by patterson et al.
sorry 'bout that. I didn't even notice there was a plain old crucial conversations out there. a lot of the anecdotes are business related, but I find those very useful, too, because its all really about dealing with conflict/confrontation. will be very curious to see if you all like it as well as me.
anyway, I'm up early, even though I ended up going to bed late. didn't get any more reading done, my eyes were tired. looking forward to reading more today. really interesting.
grrr...d3 is up early, gotta run, more in a bit.
M-41 H-38 M-10 years, T-14 years Bomb-PA 3/19/07 Separated-6/7/07 Piecing/h back home 5/08 S-6 S-4 D-4
"Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that little voice at the end of the day that says, 'I'll try again tomorrow.'"
weird dreams all night last night. I had one where I went to ow's house and for some reason was invisible so was walking around her home with H and her son in it, watching them interact as their own little family. it was surreal, I watched them, they couldn't see me, just very strange. and then I, of course, couldn't help but picture what it would be like adding my own children to the scene, and that made me sad, so I ended up leaving. I walked down to a parking garage (no idea why there was one under her house) and my invisibility wore off. h walked by and I hid, but a minute later ow walked by and I started taunting her...she ran like she was afraid of me.
very weird.
good/quiet day planned. will save the gym for tonight after h gets the kids, going to come home after dropping s5 off and do some more reading.
M-41 H-38 M-10 years, T-14 years Bomb-PA 3/19/07 Separated-6/7/07 Piecing/h back home 5/08 S-6 S-4 D-4
"Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that little voice at the end of the day that says, 'I'll try again tomorrow.'"
Sorry Shmorgs...I locked your thread up! First time for everything.
I just read your post in your last thread about the book you're reading. A lot of the stuff you said about 'steam rolling' decisions in your household resonates with me. I too, am on the tight side when it comes to money and I have acted the martyr on many things because of money. I probably should tyr and check out that book.
Thanks for replying on my thread too....damn this time zone differences, just when I get a roll up, you guys are all asleep!
thanks casey. and no problem about the lockup, I was due. but still wow, it was a fast one. lol.
okay, can I just say, thank god my kids haven't noticed (which is sad in itself) because h never called them last night, and he hasn't this morning. yes, I know he went to the sox game, but still, what's a 5 minute phone call to your children? normally they are really eager for him to call, thankfully they havn't asked at all.
M-41 H-38 M-10 years, T-14 years Bomb-PA 3/19/07 Separated-6/7/07 Piecing/h back home 5/08 S-6 S-4 D-4
"Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that little voice at the end of the day that says, 'I'll try again tomorrow.'"
well, he called. just as we were running out the door to take s5 to school, so only had a moment to talk. he sounds like he's hurting big time. found out a couple of guys he used to work with ended up in the box with him last night, so he had a lot of fun and stayed out late.
I'm irritated for some reason. just irritated in general with him...with everything. comes in waves...some days I feel fine, some days i feel sad, some days I feel angry. today its angry (or at least right now it is). I get mad just thinking about the life he has chosen, and the fun he is having, and how easy he just walked away. and how easy he's had it since! 2 women fighting over you can't be all that bad, hmmm?
I know this isn't productive thinking, but just venting a bit I guess. maybe part of it is a bit of sabotage.
well, the twins are playing so going to settle down and keep reading my book. hopefully that will get my focus back for tomorrow's talk.
M-41 H-38 M-10 years, T-14 years Bomb-PA 3/19/07 Separated-6/7/07 Piecing/h back home 5/08 S-6 S-4 D-4
"Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that little voice at the end of the day that says, 'I'll try again tomorrow.'"
Just a quick note to let you know I hope to be thinking of you tomorrow. I'll be on a family date with d and h for most of the day. God I hope that I can act 'as if' all day. Thank heavens we are going to see a movie! Ratatouille for the second time for d and I.
I ordered the book from Amazon and can not wait to read it. For you impatient types (like me) you can read a lot of the book HERE.
Thanks or the heads up Morgan, sounds like JUST the book I need! I'll have you held up in prayer tomorrow. I hope you are able to use what you have learned in the book when speaking with your H.
Me 54 DS19 and DS17 Married 06/1989 Divorced 01/2011
hi miss morgan!! Well, I suppose you can enjoy the fact he is hurting. Maybe call him back (from a locked number) and put a bullhorn to the phone.....harmless fun.......
Count me in on the book club Morgan and neph! I will go to the library ASAP! Thanks NNP. hey Casey, don't worry about the time difference because a lot of us are worry wart insomniacs anywho. You will catch me up at 3AM California time! Then again at 6AM because I am a single MOM! Yikes.
Me:38 H:39 MLC M:10 R:23 years D6 S3 Bomb: Easter, 2007 "Every day may not be good, but there's something good in every day."
ya know, I'd so much rather a jane austen book club, but I think this one is better for me. so glad you all are getting it...I want people to talk to about it, especially as it relates to talks with WAS and such.
yeah, casey, we're all over the place time wise here. I'll tell you, I wish I had found this place in that first month or 2 when I rarely slept more than a couple of hours a night. that would have been nice. still, I have those occasional up-in-the-middle-of-the-night nights when its nice to duck on. I'm often amazed seeing people up. good luck today, and enjoy ratatouille. we saw it twice, the kids loved it. very cute.
lwb, omg, I'm lomfao at your bull horn suggestion. hmmm....excellent idea, that.
nnp, thanks for the prayers tomorrow. I'll need them.
can't wait to hear all your thoughts on the book! some of you might be far better than me at crucial conversations, so don't know if it will be quite as eye opening, but hope you all get something from it.
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M-41 H-38 M-10 years, T-14 years Bomb-PA 3/19/07 Separated-6/7/07 Piecing/h back home 5/08 S-6 S-4 D-4
"Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that little voice at the end of the day that says, 'I'll try again tomorrow.'"